Need a Model's Help, Photoshopped Pm's Slandering me

[Hoibit]

How do I prove that a member has photoshopped a false conversation into an image of the pm page to cause me to be rejected for a Date raffle. I offered the model my password to check my archive, but she won't. I also tried contacting MFC support to see if they can give her a copy of all, nothing was erased, (less than 10 short pm's).
Is there anything that you can do as a model to help clear this up as you have better access to MFC Support?
Thank you

 

[BarbieLuv]

Is there anything that you can do as a model to help clear this up as you have better access to MFC Support?
Thank you

Nope, sorry. We don't have any more weight with MFC support than you do, and contacting support on behalf of someone else doesn't generally work anyway, even if any of the models on ACF had a dog in this fight (which we don't.) And there's no reason for us to back you up on this, as we don't have enough info on either side to know what's really going on.

How do I prove that a member has photoshopped a false conversation into an image of the pm page to cause me to be rejected for a Date raffle. I also tried contacting MFC support to see if they can give her a copy of all, nothing was erased, (less than 10 short pm's).

Why don't you just screenshot the conversation in your PM logs and send it to the model in question? If she doesn't trust you enough to know that you're sending her a non-altered screenshot/not go on hearsay (I'm assuming you're a regular?), then there's really no reason to want to go on a 'date' with her anyway. Move on to another model that isn't going to exclude you from things based on what other members tell her.

I offered the model my password to check my archive, but she won't.

Really bad idea to give ANYONE your MFC password, I don't care if you've known the model for years. Never, EVER give out your info to ANYONE. At best she might change the password and lock you out of your account; at worst, she might get her hands on your CC info and drain you dry.

 

[Hoibit]

I heard back from mfc support;
they requested her to contact them. I hope she does,
and they will verify the situation for her.
I have already changed the password and
I don't use a real credit card.
And I saved the image of the suspect conversation
taken with a camera at the screen.

 

[Always_Tim]

I offered the model my password to check my archive, but she won't.

Really bad idea to give ANYONE your MFC password, I don't care if you've known the model for years. Never, EVER give out your info to ANYONE. At best she might change the password and lock you out of your account; at worst, she might get her hands on your CC info and drain you dry.

While it is of course a horrible idea to share passwords, I will note that MFC doesn't store any credit card information so at least that's not an issue.

 

[GweenBlack]

And I saved the image of the suspect conversation
taken with a camera at the screen.

I came here to suggest that, take a screenshot and pictures from screen, even editable, you can print the page in PDF as well.

Relationship(friendship) with models are built in trust, if the PM screenshot in question is harsh and she felt endangered by you in the date raffle, try explaining to her. If that doesnt work just move on, date raffles are a very fine line to cross for some MFC models, and maybe she is just trying to protect herself. But i don;t know the backstory for this, so if you are willing to share with us we may help.

and please NEVER give your password to anyone. NEVER. God knows what is in your MFC mail inbox :lol:

 

[BarbieLuv]

I offered the model my password to check my archive, but she won't.

Really bad idea to give ANYONE your MFC password, I don't care if you've known the model for years. Never, EVER give out your info to ANYONE. At best she might change the password and lock you out of your account; at worst, she might get her hands on your CC info and drain you dry.

While it is of course a horrible idea to share passwords, I will note that MFC doesn't store any credit card information so at least that's not an issue.

I was more referring to the fact that people tend to use the same password for multiple sites (which is obviously a horrible idea, but we all know that a lot of people do it) and that if he gave her that PW, it might give her enough info to go track down his accounts on other sites/get more info on him. Especially if she's really that upset at him, and if he's ever told her his e-mail/real name/etc.

We don't often talk about models stalking members on ACF, since we're a community made up of mainly awesome people. And when we do talk about stalking, it's usually members going after models. I just wanted OP to be aware that giving out info like that isn't a good idea, because let's face it, how many of us actually know that person on the other side of the screen enough to trust them with things like passwords? Not many, I'm guessing, if any at all.

My apologize for not clarifying what I was talking about in my original post. I didn't mean MFC stores CC info, more that someone if they really wanted to could track down someone's info *if* it was also used on other sites.

 

[Hoibit]

Well, dangerous backstory for the other member. I don't live in the country that the model does. He has shown up on her doorstep before.
And I have asked her to go to mfc model support with the picture that the other person took of the photoshopped pm screen and have them go through my records to see if I said anything like that. I also did my own photoshopped pm from her and i pm-ng yesterday to prove that it can be done, that anything can be photoshopped, she would have to go to mfc support to get the proof of the conversation existing.
She doesn't think the pm screen can be screencapped and photoshopped to make it seem like there is something screwy going on.
She already believes that I have cleared my chat log with this message, which I have never done. I dont even know if you can delete a single MFC message.
He gave the date raffle to me because he wanted to seem nice, then did the photoshop to make himself seem like the good guy as well.
I just want to prove the guy wrong simply for the fact that he's a danger to her for doing this to make himself look good, and the past history

So is a bit tricky that she wont believe me and go to MFC model support to have them look at the correspondence between that member and I. :/

 

[mynameisbob84]

So wait... if I'm understanding things correctly, the model in question is choosing to believe the guy who randomly turned up on her doorstep over you? I'd just cut my losses and move on.

 

[Hoibit]

You got it Bob, he's her buddy (knight in shining armor)
And I have nothing there that is really of consequence other than model information that they have given me (email addresses) so I really have no qualms that a model would read through my information to prove the guy wrong. I don't jeopardize my finances in a place like MFC. My MFC profile is an open book for something like this. There are too many instances of people being innapropriate and if I can stop this one instance from possibly being harmful, I am fine with it.

So, the only way around this to keep her safe is for Admin to verify that the conversation never happened.

 

[JerryBoBerry]

If it's worth the trouble (you'd have to decide on that) you could always open up all the chat archives in question and record your screen as video. Then upload it to youtube and send her a link. Tell her his single image was photoshopped, here's live video of all of em popping up and moving around from MFC so she can see they haven't been changed. Then suggest to her the other person is an asshole.

Here's a free video screen recorder.
http://portableapps.com/apps/utilities/camstudio_portable

 

[Hoibit]

What is the deal with "clear chat logs" function on MFC archives? does it erase all chats? i am afraid to use it so i don't lose anything of importance

 

[JerryBoBerry]

What is the deal with "clear chat logs" function on MFC archives? does it erase all chats? i am afraid to use it so i don't lose anything of importance

I believe it would. I think you would also lose any privates you had in those archives as well. I myself have never clicked it.

 

[Hoibit]

This is what I wrote to the MFC administrators;

Have a problem with a member that made a fake pm conversation photoshopped image - here it is - http://imgur.com/XXXXXX can you go through my pm's with this XXXXXXXX/XXXXXXX member and see if there is any record of this in archive or deleted but as i don't have any deleted messages it shouldn't be. There are only a few dates in june/july/august that this member and I chatted. And forward the results to the model = XXXXXX Is possible that this member is a danger to her.

Names and link X'd out to limit the drama.

I certainly hope they will go through with it.

 

[bsurs]

What is the deal with "clear chat logs" function on MFC archives? does it erase all chats? i am afraid to use it so i don't lose anything of importance

I believe it would. I think you would also lose any privates you had in those archives as well. I myself have never clicked it.

I have never tested it, but I've heard that MFC can restore your chat archives in case you change your mind.

I know it's weird but I download all my chat logs, just in case MFC loses them. It's also easier to search my local copy.

 

[Hoibit]

But they shouldn't need to as I have not deleted anything at all ever.

Just wish I knew an administrator willing to deal with this asap.

 

[Jessi]

It sucks that this is happening to you, but its not MFC's job to settle interpersonal disputes between members and models (occasionally if its an issue of returning tokens for something promised and not done). So dont be surprised if they choose not to be very involved in this, especially if means extra work on their part.

If the model allows drama/arguing in her chat and gets involved enough to take sides (not to mention the guy showing up at her house :? ) this just doesnt seem like a room worth hanging out in... MFC is supposed to be fun, you should cut your losses and move on to one where the people are less craycray.

 

[Hoibit]

No, I hear all of you saying stay away, and honestly even if I wanted to go in, what's the point if she won't believe me. Just wish somebody was able to verify what I am saying, because I really really don't like being slandered and having to be concerned like i have. It's pretty stupid really.

 

[Leon_Omega]

hing is, I'm not sure you can do that at this point. The impression I'm getting is that she's not willing to listen to you since she already believed her buddy. This suggests to me that any attempt to change that would be a waste of effort at best.

As a rule I don't lie, but if anyone believes I did to the point where I can't change their mind without a third party helping, then it's not my fault that they choose to ignore that fact. I have better things to do with my time than to waste it on someone who's shown not to be worth the effort to win over.

 

[Nordling]

The fact that he's her "buddy" even AFTER he shows up uninvited at her home, makes the whole thing sound fishy. Just a wild guess but have you thought of the possibility that they worked this whole scenario out before it occurred?

 

[Hoibit]

Yes, the thought did cross my mind.
But not for her, it's hard to explain. Too much detail would get told that would possibly be slanderous and I want it to be answered by somebody that has admin rights on mfc to verify the non-existance of the disputed conversation. But not holding my breath. She's the only one to be able to requst the info.

 

[LadyLuna]

I know it's weird but I download all my chat logs, just in case MFC loses them. It's also easier to search my local copy.

How did you do that? *wants to do it*

 

[Leon_Omega]

I know it's weird but I download all my chat logs, just in case MFC loses them. It's also easier to search my local copy.

How did you do that? *wants to do it*

there's a font size option when you write your posts. You can pick between tiny all the way to huge

 

[JoleneBrody]

I know it's weird but I download all my chat logs, just in case MFC loses them. It's also easier to search my local copy.

How did you do that? *wants to do it*

there's a font size option when you write your posts. You can pick between tiny all the way to huge

:lol:
I'm pretty sure she meant the downloading of the chat logs Leon. :-D

Also... this whole thread is like an episode of Desperate Housewives!

 

[LadyLuna]

I know it's weird but I download all my chat logs, just in case MFC loses them. It's also easier to search my local copy.

How did you do that? *wants to do it*

there's a font size option when you write your posts. You can pick between tiny all the way to huge

Yes, yes, I can even make it purple.

Thank you for the tip I appreciate that you haven't seen many of my posts, but if you search "ladyluna profile" in General Camming Discussion you should be able to find where I posted the entire code for my mfc profile which I did by hand, back when I used to have a complicated one. Forum code and original html have a lot in common. ^_^

 

[bsurs]

I know it's weird but I download all my chat logs, just in case MFC loses them. It's also easier to search my local copy.

How did you do that? *wants to do it*

I looked at the source of the chat logs page and figured out the URL to download each page of each chat session. I then hacked up a perl script to automate the process. (Of course, this will break if MFC ever changes how they do their archives. Also, I don't know if it works the same on the models' side.)

I don't mind sharing the script, but I'm not really a programmer and I use a Linux system so it probably isn't much use to most people.

 

[Hoibit]

Agreed JoleneBrody, agreed. Is it possible to close out this topic? Being a noob, I am not sure.

 

[Leon_Omega]

I know it's weird but I download all my chat logs, just in case MFC loses them. It's also easier to search my local copy.

How did you do that? *wants to do it*

there's a font size option when you write your posts. You can pick between tiny all the way to huge

:lol:
I'm pretty sure she meant the downloading of the chat logs Leon. :-D

Also... this whole thread is like an episode of Desperate Housewives!

I know it's weird but I download all my chat logs, just in case MFC loses them. It's also easier to search my local copy.

How did you do that? *wants to do it*

there's a font size option when you write your posts. You can pick between tiny all the way to huge

Yes, yes, I can even make it purple.

Thank you for the tip I appreciate that you haven't seen many of my posts, but if you search "ladyluna profile" in General Camming Discussion you should be able to find where I posted the entire code for my mfc profile which I did by hand, back when I used to have a complicated one. Forum code and original html have a lot in common. ^_^

It never occurred to me that you were talking about the chat logs *facepalms at self* but yeah, I like how BBCode and HTML have a lot in common - means my time spent learning HTML wasn't completely wasted in this time of fancy stylesheets and dynamic code