Losing Good Users

[Maniac]

Was curious to hear from models if losing just one, will really make much difference to a models life on cam. Is the most important to you your biggest spender, or something else to you?

 

[Evvie]

I feel that the huge majority of the time, when a model loses a regular, it was in the works for a while and it was ready to happen. Far less often does something unfortunate happen to make a regular go away where neither party wanted it.

Generally, "losing" a regular means that the model just couldn't put up with him anymore or the member developed unhappy feelings towards what other members in the room are doing and the member removed himself or was removed. Other times, a member just loses interest in a model or finds someone else to spend time with and moves on.

There are some very high tippers which have moved on from my room. I do not tend to attract tipping assholes, so I was sorry to see them go both because they made my job much easier and because they were cool dudes.

There are many more low tipping or nontipping members which have moved on. I'm sad to see them go because they kept me company, made me laugh and in general were fun guys to see.

However, I have never been in a situation where losing a single regular from my room has seriously affected my life, and honestly for that I'm grateful. The only people whom I want to seriously alter my life if they left are people like my parents, family, my master and friends. I gotta love my MFC buddies, but if someone announced they were leaving it wouldn't destroy my life. And honestly, I'm not sure a lot of guys on MFC want the emotional burden of knowing they're the only thing keeping me going every day.

 

[IsabellaSnow]

Losing regulars can also happen with their social/living situations.

Guys start going on mfcs for various reasons, and for many it is not a long term thing. Some they've broken up with a girlfriend, so it keeps them entertained until they find someone else/are ready to find someone else. Some have spare income, then lose a job, or need to cut down on spending for various reasons.

I nearly lost a regular because he really fell for me, it was really upsetting as it was effecting his life etc. Anyway he took a bit of time away from me and still keeps his distance, but we're in touch which is nice. Some guys start with the site, love it for a while, then get bored with all the freeloaders etc so leave again.

And like Evvie said sometimes they just get bored and look for something else. I'm usually sad to see regulars go, not just because of the tokens but because I like having them in my room/chatting to them while I'm offline.

I had a very bad month last month mainly because my two best/oldest regulars were both cutting down, the guy who fell for me had backed off, and there had been another new/high tipping regular who I didn't see online for a month!

Usually I've found though when a tipping regular leaves/stops tipping, another replaces them, so earning wise it stays about the same. I was just unlucky that last month that didn't happen!

example though, there have been nights when a regular has come online and pretty much tipped the whole lot, so I've done my countdowns etc, but barely anyone else put anything in. It makes me think "jesus, if they weren't online I'd have made peanuts!" best not to think about it!

http://profiles.myfreecams.com/Isabella_deL

 

[AedanRayne]

I became depressed after one of my "users" (that's such a foreign word to use, to me, it sounds distant and cold) had to move on and honestly it wasn't about the money that they spent on me. I was making the same amount that I made before but it really hit me hard since I grew close to him. He was my buddy who was awesome to goof off with online and offline. Then, he was suddenly disappeared and it was shocking / sad. This has happened a couple of times. It's the nature of working on a site like this but either way... it's one of the crappiest parts of the job IMO.

This makes me wonder, what is the main reason a member will leave MFC? In my experience, it seems to be that they end up finding a significant other IRL. What reasons have other models heard?

 

[AllisonWilder]

To me it would depend on why they were leaving. If they're leaving because they can't afford the site any longer then I would hope that they would try to stay in touch via Twitter/Tumblr depending on how close we were.

Honestly, I have guys that have never spent a cent on me (they don't ask for things either--ever) that I would be more upset to see go than some of my bigger tippers.

If the regular was leaving because they like a different model more, while I understand it and would be disappointed, it wouldn't ruin my life or anything.

(Sorry that was a little more ramble-y than I intended.)

ETA: To answer your question, Aedan, I hear most frequently that guys who are broke don't feel comfortable hanging out anymore because they don't want to feel like a freeloader.

 

[Anonymous]

Was curious to hear from models if losing just one, will really make much difference to a models life on cam. Is the most important to you your biggest spender, or something else to you?

If I lose a member because it bothers him that:

*I don't do public cum shows
*I won't reveal my real name and location
*I won't ignore my public chat to spend all night PMing him

then I feel that it's his loss, and he's probably wasn't on my friends list anyway, so I don't think I'll lose any sleep over his disappearance.

If I lose a nice member who appreciated me and treated me with respect, yes, that's important to me, and I would be bummed and definitely less enthusiastic about logging on to MFC.

Last year one of my favorite members closed his MFC account because he said he's supposed to be living like a Christian, and he felt ashamed of himself for how obsessed he had become. Pardon the language, but I thought that fucking sucked. Not just financially, but I liked and admired him as a person. I developed a little crush on him, and at one point, I had even considered flying out to meet him (tsk, tsk, tsk).

A lot of people think cam models ONLY care about the money, and maybe some are like that, but for a lot of us there are members who make us smile and laugh (they can be tokenless, for all we care), and that's what I think a chat room should be about. Good people having a good time and being respectful towards one another. That might sound a little bit cheesy, but that's how I feel about it.

 

[mynameisbob84]

ETA: To answer your question, Aedan, I hear most frequently that guys who are broke don't feel comfortable hanging out anymore because they don't want to feel like a freeloader.

Yep. I don't know that it would make me never come back or anything (you can always find a few bucks for a few tokens from somewhere) but having no money will certainly make me drastically cut down how much time I spend on MFC (as has been the case this week).

 

[Jupiter551]

I became depressed after one of my "users" (that's such a foreign word to use, to me, it sounds distant and cold) had to move on and honestly it wasn't about the money that they spent on me. I was making the same amount that I made before but it really hit me hard since I grew close to him. He was my buddy who was awesome to goof off with online and offline. Then, he was suddenly disappeared and it was shocking / sad. This has happened a couple of times. It's the nature of working on a site like this but either way... it's one of the crappiest parts of the job IMO.

This makes me wonder, what is the main reason a member will leave MFC? In my experience, it seems to be that they end up finding a significant other IRL. What reasons have other models heard?

another reason I appreciate Amber's forums, twitter, etc. For a bit last year I had to stay away from MFC because I had a porn-nazi new gf - but offcam interaction makes it possible to still keep in contact even when I can't be on MFC etc.

 

[Shaun__]

ETA: To answer your question, Aedan, I hear most frequently that guys who are broke don't feel comfortable hanging out anymore because they don't want to feel like a freeloader.

If I lost my job, or could no longer afford to tip I would not visit my friends anymore. I would feel like I was distracting them from their jobs, and feel guilty. I do not think they would mind me being there, but it would feel like I was stealing from them.

 

[Delta]

For me, and probably many others, camming takes up a significant portion of my social interaction. Those familiar members who may or may not tip, but make my chat all the more enjoyable make it easier for me to get on line. When they're 'lost', to the unknown or otherwise, it can be a bit stressful. Many have been a casualty of my sporadic schedule, which tends to get more sporadic if I know I have less partners to play verbal tennis with.

 

[Maniac]

For me, and probably many others, camming takes up a significant portion of my social interaction. Those familiar members who may or may not tip, but make my chat all the more enjoyable make it easier for me to get on line. When they're 'lost', to the unknown or otherwise, it can be a bit stressful. Many have been a casualty of my sporadic schedule, which tends to get more sporadic if I know I have less partners to play verbal tennis with.

Understand the sporadic schedule thing, it let me to exploring way too many times, and kept me from finding a favourite. It is stressful to lose great partners too.

 

[Anonymous]

What reasons have other models heard?

*The member is engaged to be married.

*The member has a girlfriend now, so he doesn't feel the need to "pay for pussy" :roll: This guy never did close his account, by the way. He's been in my room a couple times since he had made that comment. And I don't think he's with that girl anymore...lol.

*The member spends too much money on MFC.

*The member's favorite model is no longer on MFC. I have a regular who, for some time now, has been saying he's about to leave MFC since his favorite model left the site. He's been in my room every night. I think he bought tokens just once so he could tip his favorite model, who is now done with MFC. He hasn't tipped in my room, but he plays the narrator of every move I make (If I get topless, he posts "Her tits are out now.")...lol.

 

[KristinKervz]

Although I enjoy most of my regulars and a lot of them really brighten up my day when I see them enter the room, I don't make a habit of getting attached to them, for many of the reasons listed above. Things happen, people move on and I understand that.

There is one very special regular I have that I hope never leaves me. I've grown quite attached to him through these past few months. We talk several times a day even on a personal level. He's the only one I have ever really opened up to. He also helps me out so much that I often call him my assistant lol. Ugh, now I'm sad thinking about the day he decides to move on.

 

[AllisonWilder]

I hope guys that models have grown close to know that while this is a job, we still do genuinely care and if you're broke, we get it. We're not out to just drain your wallets. Most of us chose MFC for our own reasons, but I'd guess that the biggest reason is the social/community aspect of it.

I tell my regulars that I still want to see them around and chatting with me even if they won't have tokens for a while.

 

[camstory]

I became depressed after one of my "users" (that's such a foreign word to use, to me, it sounds distant and cold) had to move on and honestly it wasn't about the money that they spent on me. I was making the same amount that I made before but it really hit me hard since I grew close to him. He was my buddy who was awesome to goof off with online and offline. Then, he was suddenly disappeared and it was shocking / sad. This has happened a couple of times. It's the nature of working on a site like this but either way... it's one of the crappiest parts of the job IMO.

This makes me wonder, what is the main reason a member will leave MFC? In my experience, it seems to be that they end up finding a significant other IRL. What reasons have other models heard?

I think this is wonderfully sweet, but does not surprise me a bit.

And yes, i think i would rather be called a douche bag than a "USER".

On the no tokens thing, I very rarely join rooms unless i have at least 15-20 tokens i can tip once with. If I do it is only to say hi and not much more before I feel too uncomfortable to stay. even this i try to avoid, b/c more times than not the Model will ask why i can't stay? I am now faced with two choices, 1: I lie and make something up, but i really really don't like to do that even when its a little thing, b/c an online relationship is so diminished in ways that i hate to throw out honesty also. on the other hand choice 2: if I am honest it almost always makes things worse b/c after the Model insist its OK, and that I should stay, I am no less uncomfortable, and now also feel like i'm dising the Model when I do leave. All that ^^^ was to get to this, - Models, about 99% of the time its all about you, but not always. When I feel uncomfortable about hanging out in a room b/c i can't tip, it is often more about the members than it is the model.

 

[LacieLaPlante]

I lose regulars for a few reasons..
- They get girlfriends (Lost multiple regs this way. They find someone real to spend their time and money on. I always feel happy for them here.)
- They lose their jobs (I lost a close reg this way. He lost his job. When he got a new one, he just really didn't have time for MFC anymore)
- They make more friends (I lost one of my closest regs this way. He found MFC when he had just moved and hadn't met friends yet. Then suddenly he became integrated in a group)
- Because I won't give them the attention they demand. (I am not the kind of girl who responds to text messages all day and answers PMs and cares about lovey dovey crap. Many guys get very disenchanted when you don't respond in the manner they expect, and they move along)

 

[Loslonelyboy]

I was going to give you a long drawn out story about why I have sorta, kinda, quit MFC but no one wants to read all that! :lol: Basically, I don't want to be a freeloader (for which I am right now) and I also find it very tough to visit every single wonderful model I enjoy visiting and always feel like I am disappointing them when I can't visit. I know, I am a lil crazy for feeling that way but... blah, blah, blah :dontknow:

I probably won't ever be able to fully quit though... I really enjoy it too damn much. (Those darn ladies got me by the balls)

Wait, Who said I was a good member anyways? Nevermind, carry on!

 

[Maniac]

I was going to give you a long drawn out story about why I have sorta, kinda, quit MFC but no one wants to read all that! :lol: Basically, I don't want to be a freeloader (for which I am right now) and I also find it very tough to visit every single wonderful model I enjoy visiting and always feel like I am disappointing them when I can't visit. I know, I am a lil crazy for feeling that way but... blah, blah, blah :dontknow:

I probably won't ever be able to fully quit though... I really enjoy it too damn much. (Those darn ladies got me by the balls)

Wait, Who said I was a good member anyways? Nevermind, carry on!

Not crazy LLB , been there many times before ... capture the sentiment of most of us, thanks.

 

[Maniac]

Want to apologise for using the term 'User' it is an old model term for someone who is actively on site. Will admit it sounds pretty cold but I wanted it clear someone who actively supports their favourites. Active support may not be just spending, and might not include all those who spend in a room. A 'user' is someone who is there for more than just a single experience in this context, and room active regular.

 

[Jaydenrainey]

If i lose a regular cause he got bored and moved on its not too much of a big deal. It happens.
My most common reason for losing regulars seems to be i let them get too close and when they aren't happy with just a friendship and sexy interaction online they either leave or move on. I've had legitimate crushes and feelings for a few regulars over the last couple years and it does sting when you know things have to end because the relationship cant move forward and they feel like the interaction will never be genuine. there comes a point where they stop tipping, having privates, and when they hang in your room get melancholy. If its someone i want to keep in touch with i tell them to do so through skype, yahoo etc. and not a camsite.
Now that im on streamate if a reg leaves its honestly no huge deal, there is a distinct lack of drama and personal interaction there and i have many people contributing not just a few people. When i was on mfc and i lost a big tipper/regular financially it was a HUGE deal. That could mean losing as much as 1/2 of my income until i found new regs.

 

[Maniac]

If i lose a regular cause he got bored and moved on its not too much of a big deal. It happens.
My most common reason for losing regulars seems to be i let them get too close and when they aren't happy with just a friendship and sexy interaction online they either leave or move on. I've had legitimate crushes and feelings for a few regulars over the last couple years and it does sting when you know things have to end because the relationship cant move forward and they feel like the interaction will never be genuine. there comes a point where they stop tipping, having privates, and when they hang in your room get melancholy. If its someone i want to keep in touch with i tell them to do so through skype, yahoo etc. and not a camsite.
Now that im on streamate if a reg leaves its honestly no huge deal, there is a distinct lack of drama and personal interaction there and i have many people contributing not just a few people. When i was on mfc and i lost a big tipper/regular financially it was a HUGE deal. That could mean losing as much as 1/2 of my income until i found new regs.

Must compliment you, you have captured a very common dynamic in the model member relationship. Can tell you that genuinely liking a model friend can be very stressful. You start looking for some indication that you are special over just anyone. The most painful feelings come where you feel less than someone who rarely visits. In reality it is probably a no win situation for the model. Thx J.

 

[wjr3]

I was going to give you a long drawn out story about why I have sorta, kinda, quit MFC but no one wants to read all that! :lol: Basically, I don't want to be a freeloader (for which I am right now) and I also find it very tough to visit every single wonderful model I enjoy visiting and always feel like I am disappointing them when I can't visit. I know, I am a lil crazy for feeling that way but... blah, blah, blah :dontknow:

I probably won't ever be able to fully quit though... I really enjoy it too damn much. (Those darn ladies got me by the balls)

Wait, Who said I was a good member anyways? Nevermind, carry on!

Not crazy LLB , been there many times before ... capture the sentiment of most of us, thanks.

^^this

Feeling like I'm disappointing them is my Achilles heel. Doesn't matter if it's no tokens, or not feeling like chatting. If a model is expecting anything from me, and I can't deliver, it's just too hard to hang around.

 

[RogueWarrior]

As one who has left MFC (yep, closed account and everything, if I want to go back have to start all over) I can say that it had nothing to do with the models. There were a couple that I was a reg in their rooms, but I never got emotionally involved with any.

The reason(s) I left are personal, but what I can share is that for me, personally, MFC became much more social than sexual. I had a couple of modes that I was a reg in their room though I never got emotionally involved with any model. So part of the reason I no longer frequent MFC is because of this forum. I get the social interaction without the pressure/obligation of tipping. Not that I was averse to tipping and I know that plenty of the models here have said tipping is not mandatory for a decent reg, but that is just the way I'm wired.

So, yeah, I miss some of the interactions. But I'm still around here to satisfy some of the social aspect.

I know this doesn't address the OPs post directly, but seems to fit in where the thread has gone. Didn't mean to ramble for so long..........Vodka.

 

[Maniac]

As one who has left MFC (yep, closed account and everything, if I want to go back have to start all over) I can say that it had nothing to do with the models. There were a couple that I was a reg in their rooms, but I never got emotionally involved with any.

The reason(s) I left are personal, but what I can share is that for me, personally, MFC became much more social than sexual. I had a couple of modes that I was a reg in their room though I never got emotionally involved with any model. So part of the reason I no longer frequent MFC is because of this forum. I get the social interaction without the pressure/obligation of tipping. Not that I was averse to tipping and I know that plenty of the models here have said tipping is not mandatory for a decent reg, but that is just the way I'm wired.

So, yeah, I miss some of the interactions. But I'm still around here to satisfy some of the social aspect.

I know this doesn't address the OPs post directly, but seems to fit in where the thread has gone. Didn't mean to ramble for so long..........Vodka.

As a member/ ex member reply this is perfect RW. The transition to a more social member was my path to leaving too. I am still unsure about what is appropriate in maintaining any connections, part of the reason for posting this. Wanted to know how most models felt about losing someone they liked or who supported them well.

 

[RogueWarrior]

As one who has left MFC (yep, closed account and everything, if I want to go back have to start all over) I can say that it had nothing to do with the models. There were a couple that I was a reg in their rooms, but I never got emotionally involved with any.

The reason(s) I left are personal, but what I can share is that for me, personally, MFC became much more social than sexual. I had a couple of modes that I was a reg in their room though I never got emotionally involved with any model. So part of the reason I no longer frequent MFC is because of this forum. I get the social interaction without the pressure/obligation of tipping. Not that I was averse to tipping and I know that plenty of the models here have said tipping is not mandatory for a decent reg, but that is just the way I'm wired.

So, yeah, I miss some of the interactions. But I'm still around here to satisfy some of the social aspect.

I know this doesn't address the OPs post directly, but seems to fit in where the thread has gone. Didn't mean to ramble for so long..........Vodka.

As a member/ ex member reply this is perfect RW. The transition to a more social member was my path to leaving too. I am still unsure about what is appropriate in maintaining any connections, part of the reason for posting this. Wanted to know how most models felt about losing someone they liked or who supported them well.

As far as maintaining connections, I may be in a bit of a unique position as I have never been a reg in an ACF model's room. So really my only connection has been through here. When I decided to stop frequenting MFC, I just cut off all connections with those models.

It was all very compartmentalized for me. I would stop in to say hi to the models that I knew from here, but never would hang out in their rooms. So, it worked out for me in that respect as there are no models here that are wondering why I stopped hanging out in their rooms.

 

[Maniac]

As one who has left MFC (yep, closed account and everything, if I want to go back have to start all over) I can say that it had nothing to do with the models. There were a couple that I was a reg in their rooms, but I never got emotionally involved with any.

The reason(s) I left are personal, but what I can share is that for me, personally, MFC became much more social than sexual. I had a couple of modes that I was a reg in their room though I never got emotionally involved with any model. So part of the reason I no longer frequent MFC is because of this forum. I get the social interaction without the pressure/obligation of tipping. Not that I was averse to tipping and I know that plenty of the models here have said tipping is not mandatory for a decent reg, but that is just the way I'm wired.

So, yeah, I miss some of the interactions. But I'm still around here to satisfy some of the social aspect.

I know this doesn't address the OPs post directly, but seems to fit in where the thread has gone. Didn't mean to ramble for so long..........Vodka.

As a member/ ex member reply this is perfect RW. The transition to a more social member was my path to leaving too. I am still unsure about what is appropriate in maintaining any connections, part of the reason for posting this. Wanted to know how most models felt about losing someone they liked or who supported them well.

As far as maintaining connections, I may be in a bit of a unique position as I have never been a reg in an ACF model's room. So really my only connection has been through here. When I decided to stop frequenting MFC, I just cut off all connections with those models.

It was all very compartmentalized for me. I would stop in to say hi to the models that I knew from here, but never would hang out in their rooms. So, it worked out for me in that respect as there are no models here that are wondering why I stopped hanging out in their rooms.

Oddly enough the same for me, only ever visitted 2 ACF models (3 now with AmberC.), as far as I know from going through the member list. I have sent a few models here for advice, but guess they never joined :? .

 

[JoleneBrody]

I have a very tight nit group of fellas who make MFC my home. On the random occasion that one disappears who is part of that group it feels weird without him for a while and everyone misses him. Reasons I usually don't know, just life I assume but it still feels like losing a buddy.

 

[Red7227]

The reason(s) I left are personal, but what I can share is that for me, personally, MFC became much more social than sexual.

Still is for me. I do tip once in a while, but mostly these days I buy presents like new cameras and such. One of the girls I used to hang out with have stated smoking regularly on-cam, which i cannot stand, while another started begging for tips. If a model is any good at this gig she will get tips without asking for them, begging is just a sign to me that a new career might be in order.

 

[JoleneBrody]

The reason(s) I left are personal, but what I can share is that for me, personally, MFC became much more social than sexual.

Still is for me. I do tip once in a while, but mostly these days I buy presents like new cameras and such. One of the girls I used to hang out with have stated smoking regularly on-cam, which i cannot stand, while another started begging for tips. If a model is any good at this gig she will get tips without asking for them, begging is just a sign to me that a new career might be in order.

:hello2: I'm the smoker! LOL! At least I warned you first. :lol:

 

[Red7227]

:hello2: I'm the smoker! LOL! At least I warned you first. :lol:

You actually look pretty cute when you smoke, it is actually some one else. After our disagreement while ago I just didn't think i would still be welcome.