I Made a Model Cry...

[justjoinedtopost]

Or she doesn't mind putting in the time so when she really needs that $5000, she can only ask him because they are so close and he is the only one who understands.

Fuck, there I go again. Thinking the worse in people.

Just no way to tell at this point. This is all speculation. We are going to need more information to get to the bottom of this matter.

OP, can you post the models name and a picture of your penis?
Never mind. A bad joke.

Agreed on that one. I totally get this saviour idea and i probably felt it at some point too. Soon i realized all men who said they like me or love me and lets chat on skype for free will never ever save me in any way. Only person who can save me is me really. I pray this girl realize this soon too.

Can happen accidentally too, without anyone intending to lead anyone else on. A misunderstanding that goes unnoticed...

Tragic.

 

[Esther_Fae]

I'm getting a doctorate actually, but your point is understood.

A PhD is a doctorate. Unless you mean MD. Both are doctorates. MD is just medical. PhD encompasses all fields of work that allow you to get a doctorate.

 

[marvelb0y]

We have talked extensively about meeting in real life and I have no doubt in my mind that we would both be willing to do it.

Doesn't this just make you a huge tease? Why talk extensively about something you said is impossible to do? Stop torturing yourself and the girl. Go tip her nicely for her time.

 

[Jaayy30]

A PhD is a doctorate. Unless you mean MD. Both are doctorates. MD is just medical. PhD encompasses all fields of work that allow you to get a doctorate.

I'm talking about professional doctorates, like DDS, PharmD, MD, DVM, etc. Yes, a PhD is a doctorate but it's typically just referred to as a PhD in clinical settings.

 

[justjoinedtopost]

Doesn't this just make you a huge tease? Why talk extensively about something you said is impossible to do? Stop torturing yourself and the girl. Go tip her nicely for her time.

Leading her on, that's what I was worried about. Even if it was unintentional.

 

[Jaayy30]

Leading her on, that's what I was worried about. Even if it was unintentional.

Yeah that's the problem. I said directly that we will never be able to meet on multiple occasions early on, but she still brings up the topic often and just flat out says things like "When we meet....." and said that it is in my hands.

One of the other posters mentioned that she may be willing to put in all of this time in order to get me to send money for a plane ticket or something down the road, in other words cash in big later on. This actually crossed my mind too, but when she brings up this topic the context is that I would be visiting her in her country so I really don't believe that this is some kind of scam.

With all that being said I think posting this was a big mistake so I'm done here. Nothing helpful, just hostility.

 

[justjoinedtopost]

Yeah that's the problem. I said directly that we will never be able to meet on multiple occasions early on, but she still brings up the topic often and just flat out says things like "When we meet....."

One of the other posters mentioned that she may be willing to put in all of this time in order to get me to send money for a plane ticket down the road, in other words cash in big later on. This actually crossed my mind too, but when she brings up this topic the context is that I would be visiting her in her country so I really don't believe that this is some kind of scam.

Yeah, that can be some rough shit.

There was a model started reaching out to me like that. I know for a fact it wasn't a scam (I offered to send her a little money and she wouldn't take it). She was genuinely lonely and looking for love. Felt pretty terrible about it.

What can you do? It's life. A little pain every now and then is unavoidable.

 

[Phoenix4987]

You have a community of people who have a wealth of knowledge of all types of relationships that form on camsites. You have gained other perspectives than your own, which is what you were looking for in the first place. We aren't a community of "yes" people, but rather a group of individuals who will tell you like it is. I'd say that's more helpful than just telling you what you want to hear. What you do with the information is up to you, but don't pout because we didn't meet your expectations. (Much like you aren't meeting this girls expectations either.)

 

[TajaEthereal]

Ok, OK, here's your cookie.

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Damn that cookie looks good.

 

[Phoenix4987]

Well, if you had a girlfriend would you hand her 50 dollars every time she came over to your place to watch a movie or hang out? That's kind of how I view your comment, but we can agree to disagree. I know this is her job so yes it is a little different than my example but in either case it's off-topic.

No it's not off-topic at all. And your analogy is way off base. In your example, you're making an analogy of treating my girlfriend like a fucking escort.

In my example, I'm saying that if you meet a camgirl on the site you should at the very least tip her for her time, or a tip with a compliment, something because you're at her place of employment and the thing she makes most of her money from is her time. Therefore, she's providing and sacrificing way more than you in the relationship. Whereas you only offer to leech her time and energy, false hopes of meeting, and just no support for her other than kind words. You might as well just be a guest who somehow managed to pull on her heart strings.

 

[Zana]

Not your girlfriend thoooo

 

[marvelb0y]

No it's not off-topic at all. And your analogy is way off base. In your example, you're making an analogy of treating my girlfriend like a fucking escort.

In my example, I'm saying that if you meet a camgirl on the site you should at the very least tip her for her time, or a tip with a compliment, something because you're at her place of employment and the thing she makes most of her money from is her time. Therefore, she's providing and sacrificing way more than you in the relationship. Whereas you only offer to leech her time and energy, false hopes of meeting, and just no support for her other than kind words. You might as well just be a guest who somehow managed to pull on her heart strings.

And this is the reason why most of these model member relationships don't work. A lot of members feel like because they are trying to date a cam model, the model has to prove herself by sacrificing everything and the member nothing. Even in a real life relationship, you are spending money on your significant other, either in gifts or taking her out to dinner. The fact the OP made that analogy means he is totally unprepared for a real relationship, let alone one formed online. Move on, even if it's real you'll sabotage it along the way.

 

[Phoenix4987]

Not to mention treating them as a model first, person second.

One of my friends was talking about a guy she was interested in, but he kept acting like a member. Was asking her for shows to which she explained she wasn't comfortable doing before they had real intimacy. Asked her to send him panties. Videos. And he never made the move to actually visit her, just talked about it end on end, and bragging about all this money he had. Said she felt so disrespected that she just ended up using him to get back at him.

 

[RogueWarrior]

Ooh, we haven't had a good one of these in a while.

I tend to believe most of them are not troll jobs (I should know). However, they get tiresome. "This is different" stuff. But, the advice is always the same.

 

[justjoinedtopost]

Not your girlfriend thoooo

Ma'am, you are taking liberties. That is for the lady in this situation to decide.

We have absolutely no way to know how she views him. Let us not presume to speak for her.

 

[AudriTwo]

Well, if you had a girlfriend would you hand her 50 dollars every time she came over to your place to watch a movie or hang out? That's kind of how I view your comment, but we can agree to disagree. I know this is her job so yes it is a little different than my example but in either case it's off-topic.

Actually he hands me a crisp $100. I don't even have to swallow! It's a pretty solid relationship.

 

[Zana]

Ma'am, you are taking liberties. That is for the lady in this situation to decide.

We have absolutely no way to know how she views him. Let us not presume to speak for her.

So relationships are decided by one person? And the other person wouldn't know if they were in a relationship or not? The way he refers to her makes me believe not.

I'm sure you're being sarcastic or ~trying~ to make a joke

 

[justjoinedtopost]

So relationships are decided by one person? And the other person wouldn't know if they were in a relationship or not? The way he refers to her makes me believe not.

I'm sure you're being sarcastic or ~trying~ to make a joke

I am being serious. If he is one person, and she is another, that makes you a third.

It is between him and her. Communication has gone off site. You don't know how she views him.

The way he refers to her makes me believe they have gotten involved to some degree. Maybe she is playing him for a fool in the hopes of a payday. On the other hand, maybe she is as madly infatuated with him as he claims to be with her.

At any rate, he has already said this business can go nowhere. Only one honorable thing to do.

If we simply must white knight for the model in this situation, let's keep it within bounds.

 

[Pure_emotion]

So these people "fall in love" on cam. They wanted to meet but he realized thats not gonna happen. He stopped tipping , she insists on meeting, he says NO. Girl is a cam model, so she's wasting her time with someone who says he loves her but oops is just a damn fantasy . That means she loses money. This girl seems like she's a dumbass . Big time. From the moment they decided they'll never meet ,that should had been the end of this thing.

 

[justjoinedtopost]

she insists on meeting, he says NO

Perhaps the most unfortunate part of this tale.

I said directly that we will never be able to meet on multiple occasions early on, but she still brings up the topic often and just flat out says things like "When we meet....." and said that it is in my hands.

Now I think any man susceptible to romance (and who has had some experience with it) can testify that during periods like this, the male brain loses a great deal of it's ability to think critically. Meanwhile females seem programmed to root out such situations and exploit them.

The internet being an equalizer in this situation by removing the physical differences, OP may be in a situation where he is at a huge disadvantage. There is a power imbalance here (potentially).

Having not given consent, and in fact having clearly said "NO", we may have a situation here where this man is being, for lack of a better term, psychologically raped. This is something that is hugely under-reported. Small wonder; the powers that be have no interest in this individual's pain. There is simply no way for them to profit from it.

So OP may be in the process of being victimized here. Shame on all of you who demanded he pay for the privilege of his agony (if that is what is happening).

 

[AudriTwo]

So OP may be in the process of being victimized here. Shame on all of you who demanded he pay for the privilege of his agony (if that is what is happening).

 

[Steve Flinn]

lolz @ the way this conversation is taking turns !!!!

i thought we were gonna help the poor fellow out .......

 

[Steve Flinn]

Yeah that's the problem. I said directly that we will never be able to meet on multiple occasions early on, but she still brings up the topic often and just flat out says things like "When we meet....." and said that it is in my hands.

One of the other posters mentioned that she may be willing to put in all of this time in order to get me to send money for a plane ticket or something down the road, in other words cash in big later on. This actually crossed my mind too, but when she brings up this topic the context is that I would be visiting her in her country so I really don't believe that this is some kind of scam.

With all that being said I think posting this was a big mistake so I'm done here. Nothing helpful, just hostility.

Just a question for you buddy.......i am sure you must have seen her naked in her shows or performing for you.......

Did she ever ask you to get naked for her and have you done it ???

 

[Omne35]

Just in case this is a real question- one thing to think about is how it can possibly end up.

I was involved with someone from Russia several years ago that I met through mutual friends. Over a period of two years or so I visited several times for a couple of weeks at a time and we talked a lot. The problem is that to get her here I would have had to pretty much decide to marry her. When we got to the point of a K1 visa I realized that for all the talking and visiting I really didn't know her well enough to be comfortable marrying her. If she's in one of those countries you're going to have to pull the trigger without a trial run.

 

[Phoenix4987]

Just in case this is a real question- one thing to think about is how it can possibly end up.

I was involved with someone from Russia several years ago that I met through mutual friends. Over a period of two years or so I visited several times for a couple of weeks at a time and we talked a lot. The problem is that to get her here I would have had to pretty much decide to marry her. When we got to the point of a K1 visa I realized that for all the talking and visiting I really didn't know her well enough to be comfortable marrying her. If she's in one of those countries you're going to have to pull the trigger without a trial run.

She couldn't just come stay with you for a couple months without getting married? I'm ignorant of visas and such.

 

[Omne35]

She couldn't just come stay with you for a couple months without getting married? I'm ignorant of visas and such.

The only way to get here is a K1 or fiancee visa. You have to sign all kinds of documents proving that you are going to get married and can support them. Single women have an almost impossible time getting any other visa from Russia since they tend not to go back. Once they're here you have 90 days to get married or they have to go back. I suppose you could go through the process, which includes personal interviews at the american consulate in Russia, and not get married but it's a lot of work and money and 90 days isn't really all that long for most people to decide.

 

[Always_Tim]

She couldn't just come stay with you for a couple months without getting married? I'm ignorant of visas and such.

She would need a visa to visit the US. That's what a visa is for. (Unless you're a citizen of a country that participates in the US visa waiver program, in which case you can visit for a few months, as long as you don't work while you're here.)

Getting a visa to visit the US is time consuming and diffficult. And nearly impossible if you're a citizen of certain countries.

 

[Phoenix4987]

Wow. That sounds all sorts of fucking complicated. And a hell of a gamble.

 

[justjoinedtopost]

Wow. That sounds all sorts of fucking complicated. And a hell of a gamble.

Imagine being stuck in line at the DMV for months.

 

[Phoenix4987]

Imagine being stuck in line at the DMV for months.

Going through immigration multiple times is bad enough. Pass.