Hosting videos without downloading

[sosexy_2010]

is there a site where you can host your videos, to sell but they can only see them online and not download them?

 

[CuteHerminie]

I think Dropbox, but i might be wrong...

 

[Leon_Omega]

Preventing people from downloading or otherwise getting a copy of these videos is next to impossible. For what reason would you want to make it somewhat more time-consuming to do so?

 

[KylieJacobs]

is there a site where you can host your videos, to sell but they can only see them online and not download them?

Look for sites where they charge the customers monthly memberships. C4S has a membership option (were they can view, but not download), but you might need to regular store to go along with it. I'm not sure though.

I think Dropbox, but i might be wrong...

Dropbox allows them to easily download them. I use it to send customers custom clips.

 

[BarbieLuv]

Even if there's not an option to download the video on the site and it's just streaming, there are tons of different programs that guys can use to either force a download of the file or record the screen while the video is playing. Most of which are free, and most of which cam members are already familiar with (a lot of guys record cam shows either to watch again later, or to make gifs for the model they're watching.) It's also worth noting that if you make it so that people can't easily download your videos or make a big deal about it, then their perceived value will rise, and there will be more of a chance that people will go that extra mile to copy them/give them out for free to others.

If you don't want people to download your videos, then don't offer videos. That's the only way to be 100% certain that they can't be copied/distributed/uploaded somewhere else. :twocents-02cents:

 

[LacieLaPlante]

In reality, I think not being able to download your videos will probably hurt your sales in the long run. I have had regulars complain to me about buying videos only to find out they can't download them, and feeling kinda cheated. So, if you sell them I would VERY CLEARLY say that they are not for download.

 

[Nordling]

In reality, I think not being able to download your videos will probably hurt your sales in the long run. I have had regulars complain to me about buying videos only to find out they can't download them, and feeling kinda cheated. So, if you sell them I would VERY CLEARLY say that they are not for download.

Yes, exactly. It kind of surprised me how many models didn't understand that members really really value the ability to actually "HAVE" the files themselves. There's several reasons for this--vanity, the fear that they won't be able to watch them again, after a week, a month, a year, and because viewing while using your own player allows you to size the video for most comfortable viewing on your personal computer, just to name a few.

 

[sosexy_2010]

thanks, just i saw one model use a website that was free that hosted the videos and u just give a person a link to view it but there was no button to download the vid, thats all im after

 

[weirdbr]

thanks, just i saw one model use a website that was free that hosted the videos and u just give a person a link to view it but there was no button to download the vid, thats all im after

Reality time...

FYI, no matter how much some sites claim that people can't download the videos they host - that's bullshit. These days, if you give me the link to a video that is supposed to be 'watch only' with no download option, it takes me on average 1 minute for me to get to the actual file and be able so save it to my computer (and that's usually just using a browser; if the site is really fancy it 'forces' me to use a packet analyser) . Sure, I'm a bit of an outlier since I work with streaming videos/music and reverse-engineering media players is part of my work, but anyone with enough time (and varying skill levels) can figure the same thing from just a few minutes to a couple of hours of googling/binging/yahooing (those last two sound.. odd). The only way that prevents me (or most people) from actually getting an usable file is to use Digital Rights Management, but only large sites like Netflix, Google Play Movies, iTunes and Amazon Prime use those ; for those, there's always the option to just use a screen recorder and get a copy anyway.

So, if people having a copy of your videos is something that you really don't want, then you should rethink not having videos at all.

 

[Shaun__]

The last time I bought videos that I could only watch the model stopped paying the hosting fees for her files and I lost them. I was being lazy and never got them when I could have. I view it as a lesson learned, and now I grab stuff even if I never plan to watch it again.

 

[HiGirlsRHot]

In reality, I think not being able to download your videos will probably hurt your sales in the long run. I have had regulars complain to me about buying videos only to find out they can't download them, and feeling kinda cheated. So, if you sell them I would VERY CLEARLY say that they are not for download.

What Lacie and other said. After having been burned a few times buying videos that aren't downloadable, and the many problems that it causes. I will never buy a non downloadable video again. If there is any doubt I do ask. Recently, there was a model who I like quite a bit was offering videos for the first time, it looked like they weren't downloadable. When I asked she said they weren't, and I told her flat out if I can't download no sale. I find the practice so bad that if if I I am sold a video that is not downloadable, not only will I not buy any more videos, but I probably will never tip the model again.

You really need to ask yourself, what is the problem you are trying to solve? I am hard pressed to think of any problem that you might have (say piracy, being able to delete the videos if I quit camming etc.) that hosting on a streaming only site will actually solve your problem.

 

[AedanRayne]

I know a very successful top model who uses this site to send to members who purchase her videos:

https://sproutvideo.com/

She raves about it! Personally, I like to give members downloads when they tip for them but to each their own. It won't keep all people from capturing your videos and possibly spreading them. However, it makes it a little harder for some users. Unfortunately, the people who are determined to spread videos will find a way. Keep that in mind.

EDIT: I think if members prefer downloads over streaming videos - Ask each model when you're interested in buying them (before the purchase). I believe the majority sell downloads but it's better to be safe if you're determined to get downloads.

To the gentlemen above me, it seems passive aggressive to stop tipping a model because she didn't send you a download (if you didn't ask first). It's one thing if she advertised "VIDEO DOWNLOAD" and sent you it as a stream but there's no cam manual that says models are required to offer downloads. There's no standard. It's not bad practice to sell videos as a stream. Many porn and solo sites only offer streams. Just ask the model before you buy a video.

 

[JerryBoBerry]

Just to answer the OP's question. Google Drive also allows for video's set to stream only.

That said every comment before about how none of them actually will stop someone is true. Most people who want to download your videos will do it no matter what site you find. You're pretty much just stopping the honest people who wouldn't post them anyway.

 

[Nordling]

I know a very successful top model who uses this site to send to members who purchase her videos:

https://sproutvideo.com/

She raves about it! Personally, I like to give members downloads when they tip for them but to each their own. It won't keep all people from capturing your videos and possibly spreading them. However, it makes it a little harder for some users. Unfortunately, the people who are determined to spread videos will find a way. Keep that in mind.

EDIT: I think if members prefer downloads over streaming videos - Ask each model when you're interested in buying them (before the purchase). I believe the majority sell downloads but it's better to be safe if you're determined to get downloads.

To the gentlemen above me, it seems passive aggressive to stop tipping a model because she didn't send you a download (if you didn't ask first). It's one thing if she advertised "VIDEO DOWNLOAD" and sent you it as a stream but there's no cam manual that says models are required to offer downloads. There's no standard. It's not bad practice to sell videos as a stream. Many porn and solo sites only offer streams. Just ask the model before you buy a video.

I suppose, but when a model says in her Gold Show topic: "Free Video for top tipper in this show" or similar, the implication is that you are getting an actual THING, not just the right to view something while it's available. I don't think we should split hairs on this, it's up to the seller to tell the buyer or "winner" what they are really being offered.

I agree, that the misunderstanding isn't reason to stop tipping, but I think it makes sense not to buy videos or other content when all you get is to peek at it. Tip her for her shows, tip her because you find her adorable, but why pay for a peep show when you think you're getting the actual file?

 

[Gen]

MyGirlFund hosts videos on their site that you can send to guys who are members of MyGirlFund.

As a note, when I first joined there, mediafire downloads were allowed but it was very, very rare to be asked for them. When I quit last week, the majority of members were asking for a download link. Not sure if that matters to you but just a note that I personally do think that when members buy a video from a camgirl directly, they expect a download link by standard. But that doesn't really matter as long as you're clear in your wording!

 

[HiGirlsRHot]

I know a very successful top model who uses this site to send to members who purchase her videos:

https://sproutvideo.com/

She raves about it! Personally, I like to give members downloads when they tip for them but to each their own. It won't keep all people from capturing your videos and possibly spreading them. However, it makes it a little harder for some users. Unfortunately, the people who are determined to spread videos will find a way. Keep that in mind.

EDIT: I think if members prefer downloads over streaming videos - Ask each model when you're interested in buying them (before the purchase). I believe the majority sell downloads but it's better to be safe if you're determined to get downloads.

To the gentlemen above me, it seems passive aggressive to stop tipping a model because she didn't send you a download (if you didn't ask first). It's one thing if she advertised "VIDEO DOWNLOAD" and sent you it as a stream but there's no cam manual that says models are required to offer downloads. There's no standard. It's not bad practice to sell videos as a stream. Many porn and solo sites only offer streams. Just ask the model before you buy a video.

I suppose, but when a model says in her Gold Show topic: "Free Video for top tipper in this show" or similar, the implication is that you are getting an actual THING, not just the right to view something while it's available. I don't think we should split hairs on this, it's up to the seller to tell the buyer or "winner" what they are really being offered.

I agree, that the misunderstanding isn't reason to stop tipping, but I think it makes sense not to buy videos or other content when all you get is to peek at it. Tip her for her shows, tip her because you find her adorable, but why pay for a peep show when you think you're getting the actual file?

The expectation when I spend $20 or $30 for a video is that as Nordling said is I am buying a tangible video. Not the rights to go to a website, remember what the link and/or password is, and hope that website is still in a business in a month, much less a few years ago. Now perhaps a couple of years ago when streaming videos was more common than it is today, a model could get away with "selling" videos but only actually allow streaming. As Gen says, the times they have changed, and the members have expressed their preference either directly in my case or simply just by not buying non downloadable videos.

Unless the video is clearly labeled as streaming only,than I would considered it deceptive practice. (Likely a violation under section 17 of the uniform code of commercial conduct.) Models who
engage in deceptive practice don't deserve my tips..

My assumption is the OP is either a new model and/or new to selling videos, and want to make sure she gets the message loud and clear that using a stream service to "sell" video is no longer acceptable. If she elects to do that route than both her profile and her topics need to include the words streaming only, or she almost certainly will get upset customers. So I am reacting strongly to the word "sell" in the OPs post.

Since I ask download or stream if there is any question in my mind this isn't going to happen to me. But just as MFC requires models to notify members that they don't get nude in private in the first minute or two, IMO the burden has shifted and now the models should notify the members that videos aren't downloadable.

Always why is this passive aggressive. Sorry the word is so commonly used now days, I am just trying to understand the new meaning.

 

[NataliaGrey]

Maybe video rentals would be a more appropriate term? That could go in the topic, and you could clarify further in your profile. Most people wouldn't check your profile, but I think the term "rent" would make them stop and ask anyway. No false advertising or hurt feelings there.

I think you should just sell the downloads, though, much simpler, more preferred, and as others said, it doesn't really make a difference to those who want to steal anyway.

 

[HiGirlsRHot]

Maybe video rentals would be a more appropriate term? That could go in the topic, and you could clarify further in your profile. Most people wouldn't check your profile, but I think the term "rent" would make them stop and ask anyway. No false advertising or hurt feelings there.

I think you should just sell the downloads, though, much simpler, more preferred, and as others said, it doesn't really make a difference to those who want to steal anyway.

Rentals would be a fine term, and would do exactly what you say.

 

[AedanRayne]

Rental implies that the person can view it limited times and that's not always the case. While I'm not one to recommend the use of streaming sites for video sales (all of my videos are downloads), it shocks me that people are this upset, frowning upon these models this much.

You're in control of who you tip (I respect that) but it feels as if you're implying that some models are purposely scamming members by selling streams. I've been a Cam Model a long time and this is the first I've heard of members being deeply upset over streaming videos. I don't believe this is common knowledge.

We don't know any model's reasoning unless we ask. We can assume that it's to protect their videos from spreading but that's just that... an assumption. Perhaps she thought it's nice to give members videos that they can watch by simply entering a password and clicking "play". Maybe she's catering to a crowd who desires instant gratification. We don't know but is she still a "deceptive model" by having a different mindset than you?



TLDR; Don't make assumptions about models' intentions by using streaming websites and base a model negatively off your assumption when you don't know her thought process. It's great that you know what you want! You can ask for that, "Are your videos for download?" No? Don't buy them.

 

[Nordling]

I can't speak for anyone else but I made no assumptions about models who sell videos that turn out to be "view on web only." In fact two models I know on streamate do this and it was simply about not realizing all the implications of using such a site. To me it's not about the model's ethics, it's like the grocery store metaphor. If the grocer sells something I don't like, I simply don't buy that particular product. If I don't like Fruit Loops, I'll continue to buy the Wheat Chex from the same grocer.

I think most of the members objecting to the practice, were not "deeply upset" over this. Most of us were simply stating our general ideas on the practice. More like that it's a good idea to let a member know the circumstances of using their product if we should care to buy it.

I know online, and in forums, words can often take on energy they really don't contain. Often our choice of words may sound way meaner or angrier than meant. Life's too short to get angry over a video.

 

[sosexy_2010]

Thanks for all the help. I know that there are programs to download streaming videos but that down to the person who buys it. I just wanted to make sure that when i host my video its on a stream/view only website and there is no download button. I also need to do this for free and not pay a subscription for it. Ill try google drive see if that helps. Its just my BF doesnt want people downloading my vids but if he sees there only for streaming i done my part and i can at least make some money and have a happy BF.

 

[CharlotteLace]

Thanks for all the help. I know that there are programs to download streaming videos but that down to the person who buys it. I just wanted to make sure that when i host my video its on a stream/view only website and there is no download button. I also need to do this for free and not pay a subscription for it. Ill try google drive see if that helps. Its just my BF doesnt want people downloading my vids but if he sees there only for streaming i done my part and i can at least make some money and have a happy BF.

You'd also want to consider if you'd have links that would expire/be individual to each customer. I mean, okay, maybe you're cutting down on the number of people who would record the stream, but what's stopping them from sharing the link? That would lead to other issues, though. If a customer buys a "just for streaming" video, will that link expire after a number of uses/days? If yes, that's even less of a value to the consumer. If not, you're not really preventing your vids getting pirated.

 

[weirdbr]

Rental implies that the person can view it limited times and that's not always the case. While I'm not one to recommend the use of streaming sites for video sales (all of my videos are downloads), it shocks me that people are this upset, frowning upon these models this much.

You're in control of who you tip (I respect that) but it feels as if you're implying that some models are purposely scamming members by selling streams. I've been a Cam Model a long time and this is the first I've heard of members being deeply upset over streaming videos. I don't believe this is common knowledge.

WRT 'rental' versus 'sale'- that's one problem of wording that no one figured yet; for example, Steam/Xbox/PSN all use verbs that imply sale, but in reality it's a gigantic rental scheme where they can revoke your access to the files at any time, either by shutting down the servers responsible for authenticating that specific title or just due to contractual dispute with the publisher leading to removing the title from the store.

Now, back to the topic at hand - maybe it would be better if everyone made explicit on their profile if it is downloadable and/or streaming only; even though downloadable is more common, it wouldn't hurt to have that information clearly shown to reduce the risk of confusion/hurt feelings (and if there's any confusion later on, it will likely be due to people who don't read topics/profiles and come to complain later when their assumptions were wrong).