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Two things ... Still no backstory whatsoever on the Night King at all... Also Did anyone else get a bad feeling when the Convo with Cercei and Tyrion abruptly stopped after he asked about her being preggers?
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Absolutely. The showrunner/writers have been "off book" for awhile now and this season really showed. It was fun, lots of dragons burning stuff and 'shipping' with Jon/Dani - this season had all the depth of a Ludlum novel done on the CW. Ludlum didn't have the depth so he went for paper thin characters in fast paced thrillers, GRR built up depth, sometimes agonizingly slow, and HBO coasted this season on it. That's what I got out of this.
Watched the season over two nights, (got it out of the way since spoilers today will abound) felt fast paced, but for all the story that was told it could have been done in 90 min. Take out long lingering shots of The Mountain and 80. It was nice to see Emilia Clarke and Sophie Turner took the off time between seasons to attend the Lena Headey school of wooden acting, though it's of no benefit to their craft.
The only reason I know King Robert's son lived through the trek north is he was known to be the fastest runner - this we knew because he was short blacksmith who had been hanging out at the back of the expedition. GRR kept him alive for something through all these novels and they reduced him to a raven. So great to have you pop up after all this time, now run with a message and fuck off: you're less needed than Hotpie in the story now. Much like the author.
I shouldn't be so harsh. Peter Dinklage was still there so some story telling was done well.
This has felt almost like an alternate universe version of Game of Thrones. It's like they've done mostly away with the things that the show was most praised for in its early run (political drama, characters being fleshed out through lengthy scenes consisting mostly of well-written and well-acted dialogue, shocking death scenes, subversive plot developments that play on genre tropes, etc.) and replaced all that stuff with dragons and zombie-like enemies and clunky foreshadowing of events and battles that don't really make logistical sense and... I dunno, it's been fun. But it feels like they're moving further and further away from the things that made me a fan of the show in the first place.
I'm fairly positive he will show up next season as somewhat important in his role as a blacksmith. I assume he will be making the soldiers dragon glass weapons. I doubt they brought him back simply for his role this season.
I look at it in terms of a trilogy of books, which this was originally meant to be. If each book is 350 pages long then out of the total 1050 pages of the whole story, this season and the next are the last 75 pages. All that stuff you got use to, are over. The opening scenes, exposition, inciting incidents, rising action, crises... They're done, those story lines have pretty much all fleshed out. We are down to the last characters for the most part and we're in the middle of the action based climax. After that we'll get a few more resolutions, like the Hound and Cercei being offed, but that's about it. The last 20 minutes of the last show will be the dénouement of them (Jon and Denarius) being crowned.
It's following the classic plot outline of books and I think even if Martin were writing them they would still be doing the same things. I have no doubt the books yet to be published will much faster paced action oriented like this too. They have to be. When you've killed off the majority of your characters, this isn't the time to be introducing new ones.
I really enjoyed this season and the last, but possibly because it has gone past the books so I have nothing to compare it to. Plus, I kind of like it when they just get along with it. It's become a bit more like fantasy porn, while before it was more fantasy realism. By porn I don't mean sexual, more that you can get off on the excitement and adventure, while originally GOT was very realistic with things not going down the expected route and all sorts of things "coming up". You got great scenes, but they were between the nitty and gritty parts. Something I both loved and hated about George R.R Martin's writing.
I'm going to stick this in a spoiler for those who haven't watched the last episode- But for me this was an error and also showed how they've moved away from the books:
I'm going to stick this in a spoiler for those who haven't watched the last episode- But for me this was an error and also showed how they've moved away from the books:
When they named Jon as Aegon, was it just me or did that seem ridiculous? While they have decided to keep out Aegon's character still being alive in the season, they still very much have stated that Aegon was Rhaegar's son from his marriage to Elia Martell. So if hypothetically Rhaegar had conveniently secretly annulled his marriage to his wife who gave him many children so he could marry Lyanna Stark, would they seriously name their child with the same name as his first born who at that point is still have been alive?! Talk about slapping Elia in the face.
My guess is because they've cut out Aegon's character they have merged Jon into him, though this makes me wonder if this season is just fan porn based on fan theories as everyone has been expecting this. While in the books this may absolutely not be the case that Jon is Rhaegar's child. Why bring in a new character in Aegon when you can merge a favourite into him? It just seems pretty lazy, really they should have created a new name for Jon, or just let him be "Jon Targaryen".
It's definitely all way too convenient for GOT. GOT is lots of things, convenient is not one of them.
My guess is because they've cut out Aegon's character they have merged Jon into him, though this makes me wonder if this season is just fan porn based on fan theories as everyone has been expecting this. While in the books this may absolutely not be the case that Jon is Rhaegar's child. Why bring in a new character in Aegon when you can merge a favourite into him? It just seems pretty lazy, really they should have created a new name for Jon, or just let him be "Jon Targaryen".
It's definitely all way too convenient for GOT. GOT is lots of things, convenient is not one of them.
Aegon was their second born, not first. They only had 2 kids total. As far as I know it just was not a happy or romantic marriage..so he left. He didn't care about her and she knew that. In the books all of them are dead though and killed. Including Elia and her children. Jon was only safe due to being hidden.
For the show they were also all dead except Jon. I'm not sure where they are going though with using the same name since he's obviously not their second born kid but Lyannas only instead. I guess the are going with him being the promised one instead. Aegon though isn't an uncommon name so maybe she just liked it too.
For the show they were also all dead except Jon. I'm not sure where they are going though with using the same name since he's obviously not their second born kid but Lyannas only instead. I guess the are going with him being the promised one instead. Aegon though isn't an uncommon name so maybe she just liked it too.
I think it's some sort of tradition or something. There's actually about eight Aegon Targaryens, with Jon being included.
Aegon the Conqueror (1st one) built the Iron Throne itself.
His grandson was also an Aegon, Prince Aegon. This one never sat on the throne.
Aegon II did take the throne after Aegon the Conqueror. His half sister was next in line, but he had his dragon eat her so he could take it.
Aegon III, half-nephew of of Aegon II.
Aegon IV. Worst Targaryen king of them all.
Aegon V. Father of the Mad King.
Then Prince Aegon, the one you mentioned, Rhaegar and Elia's son.
It's almost like Lyanna Stark wanted to ensure the Aegon name lived on with her new family with Rhaegar. So she chose that common name, even though Rhaegar already had a son named Aegon at that time. Given how many other Aegon's all lived at the same time, I think it was probably an accepted practice to name a child after 'The Conqueror' and builder of the Iron Throne.
Aegon the Conqueror (1st one) built the Iron Throne itself.
His grandson was also an Aegon, Prince Aegon. This one never sat on the throne.
Aegon II did take the throne after Aegon the Conqueror. His half sister was next in line, but he had his dragon eat her so he could take it.
Aegon III, half-nephew of of Aegon II.
Aegon IV. Worst Targaryen king of them all.
Aegon V. Father of the Mad King.
Then Prince Aegon, the one you mentioned, Rhaegar and Elia's son.
It's almost like Lyanna Stark wanted to ensure the Aegon name lived on with her new family with Rhaegar. So she chose that common name, even though Rhaegar already had a son named Aegon at that time. Given how many other Aegon's all lived at the same time, I think it was probably an accepted practice to name a child after 'The Conqueror' and builder of the Iron Throne.
There's also more than one Viserys too. As well as multiple RhaeXXX names too. AeXXX, RhaeXXX, and Viserys are done over and over in their line. It's not uncommon in royal families to do that. She named her son after her husbands grandfather, not a biggie in their world. Now it would be weird, but they are living in a very different time where namings were big deals.
Okay, just going to put this out there. Obviously Jaime is going north to help fight the dead. I think after that happens he'll return to King's Landing and at some point when things are going very badly, Cercei will order the city burned by wildfire. This will force Jaime to kill his sister, thus bringing full circle the whole 'Kingslayer' story arc for him.
But the twist will be Cersei lying on the floor bleeding to death and looking up at Jaime, only to reveal Arya taking off Jaime's face and a fake gold cast around her hand. He actually died in the battle with the dead. But they won't show that, instead saving it for the twist at the end. This will also allow Arya to cross off the last name on her list and the first to be put on it.
Poetic ending for all three characters in one scene.
But the twist will be Cersei lying on the floor bleeding to death and looking up at Jaime, only to reveal Arya taking off Jaime's face and a fake gold cast around her hand. He actually died in the battle with the dead. But they won't show that, instead saving it for the twist at the end. This will also allow Arya to cross off the last name on her list and the first to be put on it.
Poetic ending for all three characters in one scene.
Yes! you are right!! but for example happened to me with Harry Potter, when I was a little girl it made me bored, I preffer instead Lord of the Rings (books and movie) but after 10 years now... I LOOOOVE H.P. We tend to change all the time and maybe one day I'll love GOT because it ha all the things I like, dragons, middle age-ish environment, murder...
Well if it's been a few years since you gave it a try give it another go. Won't hurt to give 2 hours to the first couple of episodes again. If you don't though then don't feel bad. It's good also confusing as fuck sometimes lol. You miss a lot and who the hell everyone is and why they hate each other even. A lot just went on before we ever see them. I'm going to give it a second complete go through once it's done because I know so much is said you do not catch the first time.
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I can definitely relate. When the series first came on I would look at the previews and think, "nah." One day recently I decided to give it a try and ended up binge watching it for 2 weeks straight.
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A small hopeful piece of me wants Jon to some how end up in command of the dead dragon. Too easy, I know.
I keep on thinking once he's defeated the dead army, and Cercei, he's already got Denarius pregnant.... He's going to the last major character to die. Probably in the final episode. Once the major goals are done, there's just no reason for them to keep him around.
Stop saying Denarius! It makes me so angry.
I know it's spelled Denarius, but this stupid autocorrect keeps changing it to Denarius. What can I do?!
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I found this a little late but I need to vent about this season lol. I love GoT and watch all of the fan theories, lore, histories, etc., but have yet to read the books because I'm lazy
I do feel like this season was more for the wow factor instead of trying to maintain the political and complicated story line. I really dislike Jon and Dany together for some reason and it's not even that they are related. It just seems so rushed. I agree that something felt just "off" this season. Like characters like Tyrion and Varys didn't play as big of a role this season which was somewhat irritating. I also agree about the backstory of the Night King. The only reason I'm able to keep watching is because I watch videos about the histories and stuff like that. I feel like this season would have been extra weird with just the show's limited information (Night King, Rhaegar/Lyanna, Cersei being pregnant, etc).
And one last thing! lol Although I was very happy to see Baelish get taken out... they barely gave that side of the story any context. Like I feel like in other seasons his intentions seemed clearer, this season was just him vaguely meddling with the Stark sisters.
I do feel like this season was more for the wow factor instead of trying to maintain the political and complicated story line. I really dislike Jon and Dany together for some reason and it's not even that they are related. It just seems so rushed. I agree that something felt just "off" this season. Like characters like Tyrion and Varys didn't play as big of a role this season which was somewhat irritating. I also agree about the backstory of the Night King. The only reason I'm able to keep watching is because I watch videos about the histories and stuff like that. I feel like this season would have been extra weird with just the show's limited information (Night King, Rhaegar/Lyanna, Cersei being pregnant, etc).
And one last thing! lol Although I was very happy to see Baelish get taken out... they barely gave that side of the story any context. Like I feel like in other seasons his intentions seemed clearer, this season was just him vaguely meddling with the Stark sisters.
Not saying your ideas aren't valid and I understand the feel of the season. They really tried to jam a lot in to fewer episodes. Some of my thoughts:
It seems that all the politically complicated stuff got snuffed by dragons or were eliminated in previous seasons-- the Walder Frey thing which Arya Stark took care of at the end of season 6 seems to be the last house that seemed political at all in terms of who anyone might align with at all given the right respect and right price. With Euron Greyjoy taking over the helm and becoming allies with Cersei Lannister's side in the conflict, it is now just basically the forming of alliances between Sansa Stark/Jon Snow and the Mother of Dragons to try and stop the Night King. They really wanted the Lannister family to help and her association with the Greyjoys would have been great. Most territories have no doubt who they are allied with since the taking of the Tyrells and we saw what happened to the Tarly heads of the household. There really isn't much a person can do with words these days to try and sway another.
All in all, it still seems complicated, even if it is just trying to get living people to fight the dead people.
(I do think that Bronn will somehow rescue Tyene Sand in the same way that she rescued him !!somehow!!, so maybe that ally isn't gone: ).
Tyrion was huge in suggesting strategies to confront Cersei, albeit they ended up with her outsmarting him--see the Tyrells. He also does his best to try and convince his sister, as jaded as she is, to join in the cause to fight the dead. Varys and his 'little birds' (if he even has them anymore?) kind of make him a weak link as info on other kingdoms really isn't relevant in taking down a ruler or usurping power anymore, although his conversation with the Melisandre (the red witch?) seems important. His feats of espionage was great for all those other eliminated players in the game (too many to list), but now it is basically all an allegiance to either Jon Snow/Sansa Stark/the Mother of Dragons, or Cersei Lannister/Euron Greyjoy on the iron throne, or the Night King (of which you have no choice since you would have to be dead to follow it).
Well, I know there were some cut scenes where Bran might have done a thing to review the history of the matter, but, honestly, Littlefinger was cocky as fuck and really thought he had some leverage: pushing Lysa Arryn out that big hole and Sansa defending him, and then bringing Lysa's army to help Sansa at the battle of the Bastards. Is there any possibility that he may have been too full of himself and felt he was beyond reproach? The season had it leading up to him trying to form a rift between the two Stark women and, honestly, it always seemed like Sansa never trusted him at all. I'm surprised he lived this long actually seeing as how slick he is. I just think that the lack of people he could pit against each other was dwindling and he really had no where to go anymore.
Maybe it is like in chess where the board is basically cleared but that bishop is hanging about and the queen sets him up for the rook to take him out?
He really seems surprised:
It seems that all the politically complicated stuff got snuffed by dragons or were eliminated in previous seasons-- the Walder Frey thing which Arya Stark took care of at the end of season 6 seems to be the last house that seemed political at all in terms of who anyone might align with at all given the right respect and right price. With Euron Greyjoy taking over the helm and becoming allies with Cersei Lannister's side in the conflict, it is now just basically the forming of alliances between Sansa Stark/Jon Snow and the Mother of Dragons to try and stop the Night King. They really wanted the Lannister family to help and her association with the Greyjoys would have been great. Most territories have no doubt who they are allied with since the taking of the Tyrells and we saw what happened to the Tarly heads of the household. There really isn't much a person can do with words these days to try and sway another.
All in all, it still seems complicated, even if it is just trying to get living people to fight the dead people.
(I do think that Bronn will somehow rescue Tyene Sand in the same way that she rescued him !!somehow!!, so maybe that ally isn't gone: ).
Tyrion was huge in suggesting strategies to confront Cersei, albeit they ended up with her outsmarting him--see the Tyrells. He also does his best to try and convince his sister, as jaded as she is, to join in the cause to fight the dead. Varys and his 'little birds' (if he even has them anymore?) kind of make him a weak link as info on other kingdoms really isn't relevant in taking down a ruler or usurping power anymore, although his conversation with the Melisandre (the red witch?) seems important. His feats of espionage was great for all those other eliminated players in the game (too many to list), but now it is basically all an allegiance to either Jon Snow/Sansa Stark/the Mother of Dragons, or Cersei Lannister/Euron Greyjoy on the iron throne, or the Night King (of which you have no choice since you would have to be dead to follow it).
Well, I know there were some cut scenes where Bran might have done a thing to review the history of the matter, but, honestly, Littlefinger was cocky as fuck and really thought he had some leverage: pushing Lysa Arryn out that big hole and Sansa defending him, and then bringing Lysa's army to help Sansa at the battle of the Bastards. Is there any possibility that he may have been too full of himself and felt he was beyond reproach? The season had it leading up to him trying to form a rift between the two Stark women and, honestly, it always seemed like Sansa never trusted him at all. I'm surprised he lived this long actually seeing as how slick he is. I just think that the lack of people he could pit against each other was dwindling and he really had no where to go anymore.
Maybe it is like in chess where the board is basically cleared but that bishop is hanging about and the queen sets him up for the rook to take him out?
He really seems surprised:
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I agree with everything you mentioned. It completely makes sense when you really think about why they did things that way. I felt like the band aid was just ripped off so fast this season haha.
Yes! This next season might be even more of a pain in terms of expediency and a lack of every bit of intrigue in favor of a cramming as much as the hbo people can into even fewer episodes (a part of me thinks since they have no source material to act on their own and that can be confusing as they have no real idea of what the originator of the series wishes and how to translate his unwritten ideas to a tv audience). The really broad and expansive storyline has been narrowed to the size of the point on the tip of Arya's 'needle.'
It really is amazing to me how during the first number of episodes there didn't seem to be enough action and it was getting to know people and I didn't really click (lol, there is a comic book called Alpha Flight where the lead character and Ned Stark kind of have the same thing going on and I was blown away back then--around issue 12) but now there seems too much action.
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100% on the same page as you. I will be a huge fan regardless. I'm saving the books for when the series is over so I can relive it haha.
The producers actually sat down with him back in March 2014 and went over exactly how he was going to end the show, including details about every character. They have all the "broad strokes" Martin himself will be using in the books.
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'Game of Thrones' Showrunners Know How George R.R. Martin's Books End
Yeah I see people keep saying they are on their own and have nothing to go on but Martin told them exactly what to do and how it should go. Plus with the episodes being longer you're getting just as many minutes as before pretty much. I prefer longer episodes actually and enjoyed the way it's been done. It should have been done like that the entire time.
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I like the longer episodes but I wish there was more! I think that there's just a lot of information that they've had to bring up super quick. I think since the series started out slow it's just hard to adjust, at least for me
I haven't read the books but I do know there's quite a bit of a difference and I'm sure the show will also give its own spin on things.
I mentioned earlier that last season was like getting a band aid ripped off quick- which I have a love/hate for haha. I want it to last forever but also want to just get to the point
I feel like before was multiple building blocks being put in place and now the "new" information was simply old stuff being confirmed. Hardly shocking stuff. Things that were alluded to were just solidified is all. I don't need a bunch of episodes for that I guess. I prefer the mini movie format because it's just done and over with asap. Waiting 2 more years for more episodes is bullshit IMHO.
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