Food for thought

[AnonyGhost]

It never ceases to amaze me how nasty tipping premiums can be to guys who treat models well but are almost always broke. And they can rip a guy to shreds all they want because the model's hands are tied, she can't say "stop harassing this guy, its okay, he doesn't have to tip" Little do they know that guy gave up on becoming a photographer, skipped an airshow he'd been waiting two years for, drives around the night before trash pickup looking for scrap metal, just to come up with a few bucks. The guy that dropped 87 bucks on a megaupload account so he could host videos for a model who couldn't afford an account because her national currency was very weak against the euro. Little do they know that guy spent 2 days backing up his entire hard drive before going on a search of sharing sites for video editing software so he could either edit videos for models who couldn't do it themselves or didn't want to. Little do they know the many many times his clinical depression was made much worse upon hearing that something bad had happened to a model friend of his. Little do they know of the night he spent with a Romanian studio model who was going to get fired for not making her daily targets. Knowing that she was supporting her entire family including her mother with health problems. Do they know what its like to sit and watch your friend cry her eyes out knowing that when she gets home her family will be waking up and they're about to find out there's no telling when they'll have money to buy food again. Little do they know that guy had to come down and take his night pills and try to explain to his family why there were tears running down his cheeks. Little do they know what its like to not be able to talk about one's real life because if anyone found out a 27yr old was still living with his folks on medical disability they'd cut him to shreds. Little do they know what its like to have no privacy and being forced to explain to your parents exactly what MFC is and how it works.

Little do they know that guy doesn't come to MFC to see cum shows. He comes there because MFC is the only place in the world where he can socialize with people and not get hazed or abused. Little do they know that the many of the models there and quite a few premiums have treated him better than most of the people he'd ever met in 27 years. Little do they know of the many times when someone would know that he was anxious or depressed and they would do their best to make sure his anxiety or depression didn't get worse. Little do they know that if one was to list the top 150 people in the world who care about him, there would be several models and a couple premiums on that list.

Oh how little they know...............

 

[Nordling]

Mostly, the only time I've seen regulars rip on another member for non-tipping is when he begs for stuff. And even then, I've seen lots of models tell them to leave the guy alone

Cam sites are the ONLY place where a person won't be harassed? Maybe that person does things on other sites you haven't mentioned.

Is the person you're describing you, btw?

 

[Shaun__]

I typed something decided it was mean and deleted it, but I think you are sharing way too much information with complete strangers. I will say I do not like freeloaders, but I never do anything about them. That is the models business not mine.

On a much more important note, if you are helping the model the way you say you are then you are not freeloading. The model should tell the tippers you are helping her offline so they will leave you alone. The fact she is not makes it sound like she is just using you.

 

[StarrieNights]

Ok this is going to sound mean, I'm aware. And maybe this isnt the thought process of all models.

MFC is not a therapeutic site. There happens to be a social element, but the bottom line is.. If we dont get paid, we dont come on cam. Maybe instead of paying for someones upload service, tip each model minimally as you can. If you invest all of your extra cash into one model, you cant be annoyed when the other models think you are cheap. We work, just like you, for money.

I have a lot of regulars who DONT tip. I enjoy the conversation and spike in room count. But regardless, If you sit in my room day after day and you cant come up with $2 for a small tip, i feel as slighted as any waitress or stripper who is equally dividing her attention amongst all of her clients, including you. Even throwing down a few tokens here and there is fine. you dont have to drop $20 every time you walk in. its not reasonable.


As a side note..... OP: A lot of models will tell you every sob story in the book. You need to take this with a grain of salt...
this whole post comes off as really whiny. Im sure you understand why Paying premiums would get annoyed covering your end of the tokens everyday.

 

[Lydia_Deetz]

 

[PlayboyMegan]

Mostly, the only time I've seen regulars rip on another member for non-tipping is when he begs for stuff.

^This. Or my guys will make a general comment like, "wow, 700ppl and not one person tipping? I hate freeloaders!" It isn't directed to any one person.
"He comes there because MFC is the only place in the world where he can socialize with people and not get hazed or abused."
A little contradictory to your earlier statements.
If you are talking about yourself, why would you go through so much agony over a site, bitch and moan about it, and continue using it? I hate when someone bitches about their situation and does nothing to change it. It's like when girls complain to me they are over weight while eating a cheeseburger.
It sounds like you may have an addiction on your hands. I think you need to step back and realize that MFC is not the real world and it seems to be causing you more pain than comfort.

 

[sxycherrypie]

I have a couple regulars that do not tip at all,but they make good conversations to my room. If what you said is true and you did do all of those things for her you are not a freeloader at all in the slightest bit. Also MFC is not a sanctuary in the slightest. There are a shit ton of trolls out there that will nit pick at you and over protective regulars that will constantly tell you to tip or gtfo,call you names if you do not hell even models can be nasty. You need to be careful who you talk to on MFC and how much info you give them about your self like in your post you gave up on important things for this model,but was it really worth missing on what you were waiting for for 2 years on. To me it wouldn't be.

You need to separate what is reality and what is fantasy,.MFC is a created fantasy for men who are lonely or had a hard day at work looking to unwind, not to obsess over it is not healthy. Alos next time you post make is sound a bit less oh please pity me,feel sorry for me and you will get alot more positive answers.

 

[AmberCutie]

"wow, 700ppl and not one person tipping? I hate freeloaders!" It isn't directed to any one person.

Whether it's another member who says this, or the model, it always seems to incite replies of "Hey I already tipped!" or "I wish I could tip but you know my situation" or other excuses, etc. I always have to make a verbal disclaimer about how it's directed at all the folks who are sitting on their tokens, enjoying a free show, who should be tossing a few here or there.

 

[fiver]

It never ceases to amaze me how nasty tipping premiums can be to guys who treat models well but are almost always broke.

MFC is the only place in the world where he can socialize with people and not get hazed or abused.

Seems your entire premise is an incongruity.

 

[mynameisbob84]

Good Lord :?
Not to be a dick, but that's a lot of crap to unburden in an introductory post. I'd have started with a "hello" at least
But seriously, man. Random strangers on the internet being mean to you shouldn't bother you this much. There are poopy-faced McPoopersons all over MFC, just as there are in every walk of life. Try not to let them get to you. :twocents-02cents:

 

[lordmagellan]

"Little do they know that guy gave up on becoming a photographer, skipped an airshow he'd been waiting two years for, drives around the night before trash pickup looking for scrap metal, just to come up with a few bucks."

Sorry, but, uhm, maybe his priorities are skewed. If you're so bad off that you have to collect metal for cash maybe you shouldn't be visiting cam sites where a model is paid for her work. The internet is a luxury (unless you work on it). Cam sites are added luxuries.

 

[SoTxBob]

--Wow...you guys make the noob feel so welcome here.... :-?

 

[Jaydenrainey]

"Little do they know that guy gave up on becoming a photographer, skipped an airshow he'd been waiting two years for, drives around the night before trash pickup looking for scrap metal, just to come up with a few bucks."

Sorry, but, uhm, maybe his priorities are skewed. If you're so bad off that you have to collect metal for cash maybe you shouldn't be visiting cam sites where a model is paid for her work. The internet is a luxury (unless you work on it). Cam sites are added luxuries.

my sentiments exactly.
to the o.p you need to find a support group for whatever disability you have rather than spending your time on cam sites. while its ok to socialize and not drop a tip occasionally to a cam model her time is her money and even just talking is taking up her time.
sorry you have it so rough right now but mfc is not the right place to find refuge from that.

 

[Paulie Walnuts]

"Little do they know that guy gave up on becoming a photographer, skipped an airshow he'd been waiting two years for, drives around the night before trash pickup looking for scrap metal, just to come up with a few bucks."

Sorry, but, uhm, maybe his priorities are skewed. If you're so bad off that you have to collect metal for cash maybe you shouldn't be visiting cam sites where a model is paid for her work. The internet is a luxury (unless you work on it). Cam sites are added luxuries.

I was just gonna say that.
Really... you're wandering the streets collecting tin cans to pay for a megaupload act and spending hours editing pRon for some chick on a webcam? For FREE?

Perhaps, if you had spent the cash from the scrap on your photography and not the internetz, you'd be in a better place. Maybe if you had gone to the airshow and not paid for the megaupload account you might have met a nice girl who perhaps.... had a job too.

Had you done that, perhaps you'd both have the means to properly treat your clinical depression, but I suspect some money from the savings and the girlfriend (or, just any friends) would have fixed that.

I hate to be mean, but really.... this is a classic case of internet poisoning. The antidote is sell the computers (after you wipe the 500 teraquads of pRon on them) and rip out the cable wire.

On the bright side, that'll save you over $100 a month. Maybe more!

Now, I need something for my headache.

 

[JickyJuly]

If you're hanging out on the internet, you definitely have free time and probably pay for your connection. If you don't pay for the internet bill, you probably live off of someone else. If you're using someone else's tab for luxuries, you're getting enough stuff for free (maybe too much stuff for free since you seem to have an entitlement issue).
That said...
I don't like anyone in my room telling others to tip freeloading or not. That's my business, and catfights mess up the vibes.
:twocents-02cents:

 

[fiver]

--Wow...you guys make the noob feel so welcome here.... :-?

Tough love?

Maybe a dose of reality?

I'm a n00b and nobody has given me any shit (yet, it will come though :-D )

 

[lordmagellan]

--Wow...you guys make the noob feel so welcome here.... :-?

Tough love?

Maybe a dose of reality?

I'm a n00b and nobody has given me any shit (yet, it will come though :-D )

You shut the fuck up, new guy! :lol:

Ha! Welcome to the forum. Enjoy your stay.


But seriously, SoTxBob, I'm not sure there was anything about being welcoming or unwelcoming intended anywhere. This person came in with a pity party without so much as "hello." And, like someone else pointed out, seems to have this sense of entitlement. And by the OP's words, his problems seem to be of his own doing (or not doing). My own post is written from personal experience- I have plenty I could whine about not accomplishing, but I haven't achieved those goals because I'm a lazy fuck that's addicted to the internet. I won't cry over having no tokens to tip, I'll just stay away or pop in to say hello and skidaddle til I do have some to toss around.

Way I see it, if your first post to a forum- that isn't about complaints- is filled with complaining about how faceless words typed on a screen offend you, maybe the internet is not for you. If you have to collect garbage to sell for scrap so you have some money, maybe the internet should wait. I grew up in a house that burned through I don't know how much money on cigarettes and beer every week, yet my parents complained about never having money. I don't have a lot of patience for people who complain about not having money when they blow it on bullshit.

 

[sxycherrypie]

I agree what The almighty Lord said (pun intended for lords name=D) if he did not post on this forum basically saying hey guys feel sorry for me here is a few stupid things I did that made me dumpster dive for money and how mean people are. Yes, I know that sounded a bit mean the way I typed that ,but that is how I took the OP's post.This is more of tough love and a reality check.This guy needs to get his priorities straight and stop spending what he cannot afford on a model who is very likely to be using him.

 

[fiver]

model who is very likely to be using him.

I could stand to be used by a model. :-D