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It's mostly my own fault (spoiled rotten dog), but my brat's separation anxiety has reached a tipping point. For quite some time, she's 9 years old (I've had her 8 years), it's been manageable (but a pain in the ass).

Before I'd leave, I would set her up with some busy treats (stuffed into bones or toys). There would be whining, but she'd settle down, and when I returned she'd be fine. No peeing/pooping/destroyed items, etc., and everything was hunky-dory.

This started changing 3-4 months ago. I hurt my back, and right now it's difficult to drive. Actually, it's difficult to get into my 4X4 SUV. So instead of me leaving, and the brat hearing the car start up and drive away, she sees me through the window waiting for my ride.

It started with more whining, irritating, but no big deal. Then she started scratching at the front door. Again, irritating, but no real damage done. Then about 2 weeks ago, I came home to a big mess: she obviously tried to get to 2 different widows, knocking over a bunch of crap and ripping one of the drapes. "Damage" was negligible, but I was afraid she would try to run through the window and get cut by glass or get loose & get hit by a car, etc...

So the next step, I started putting her in my office and shutting the door. Again, with the busy treats. She went in willing and happy, there was some whining, she did scratch at the door, but nothing big (so I thought). Then Saturday, I had to leave for an hour and when I came back, she was in the living room! WTF, she can open door now? Nope. She somehow scratched/gnawed her way through the door. From about knee level down, it's all jagged, like a shark, lol (although it's not funny now).

WTF, dog! I do have a kennel, but haven't used it in over 7 years or so. She took to kennel training quick, my main objective on that was peeing/pooping and making a mess of things when I was gone. It didn't take long, and I haven't used it since. Also, towards the end, she started biting the grate in an attempt to get out. So while I could put her in there again, I'd rather not. For the time being, I'll put her in the bathroom. Not much for her to destroy there. Famous last words, lol

Yes, it took a long time to get here, but here's where the advice comes in: going to the vet and getting drugs is the last resort. Kenneling on a regular basis, is the 2nd to the last resort. I live in a small town in the middle of no where, so hiring a trainer/dog whisperer would be hard/next to impossible.

Have done a lot of reading on the internet and looking for feedback on a couple of things to try: Thunder Jacket and/or some of those pheromone-based "calming" (DAP - dog appeasing pheromone) remedies. Adaptil is one brand, but there are several. I don't have a problem trying more than one remedy, like a Thunder Jacket and an Adaptil collar at the same time. What I like about these two, is that there are no known side effects. I've even read that a citronella collar can be useful in this situation, even though that sounds counter intuitive to me ;)

Anybody have any experience with these? Thanks in advance!
 
I'm actually considering getting some Adaptil for Tank as he gets super anxious when we are gone for very long. He goes on howling/barking sprees and at his worst, destroys anything he can get his face on.

Looking forward to seeing other people chime in with advice, I am certainly in no position to dole it out considering how Tank behaves.
 
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The only thing that helped my dog was her crate without anything in it. We had to get her a smooth plastic crate, but the door part was still metal. I wonder if they make any without the metal door? I just wanted to comment to try to tag some of our wise dog people.
@Autumn_LoL @JoleneBrody @caireen Miss Lollipop would be a good one too, but I can find her tag.
 
Oh man.. I don't really have a dog with separation anxiety (I do, but she is fine with other dogs around, and I have six). Maybe @nadiaspring will see this and have some insight?
I hope you figure it out!
 
My roommate crates her mini aussie for hours every day and this is what she does. His crate is super "homey." Always has chew toys and blankets in it. One really smart thing she does is put an old t-shirt that she wore for a while in there, so you pup has your scent to comfort her. Maybe spritz it with a bit of your perfume. She also uses this Top Paw Calming puppy spray and sprays the blankets with it. I've noticed that's really helped calm his barking down.
http://www.petsmart.com/dog/stress-...calming-spray-zid36-13772/cat-36-catid-100061
Blue Buffalo also makes these tranquility treats and she usually puts one in his crate before she leaves.
http://bluebuffalo.com/natural-dog-treats/blue-tranquility-tasty-chicken-jerky-treat/
She did try the jacket thing but said it didn't help at all. Which really surprised me because he always insists on being pressed against our legs/torsos as much as possible. It may work for your dog though, can't really know till you try it.

I don't crate my dog anymore because she started destroying the metal door so I took that as "Hey mom, I really fucking hate being in this thing." So I just try to exhaust her as much as possible before I leave. Really intense game of fetch, or run/walk about a mile with her. A sleeping dog, is a well behaved dog. I just remove as many things that she could possibly destroy and keep my time out of the house to a minimum and she does good.

Something my mom taught me as well. Always say the same phrase when you're leaving. I tell my babe, "Momma's coming back, I'll be back. Be good!" a few times over. Dogs can learn up to like 300 words, so giving them a familiar phrase whenever you leave may help reassure them them a bit.

Best of luck!
 
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Just wanted to say that having a very "homey" crate helped my dog. His crate is open when I'm home and he often chooses to just hang out in there. I give him his food in there as well so his crate is now his food/cozy place, which I think helps him to like it. It's also great if I have to take him to the dogsitter or if we're in hotels travelling, because I can bring his crate with his toys and blankets, and it feels like home. He stays in there when he's home alone - when I first got him, if he was left with the run of the house, he would pee everywhere while I was gone. He has literally never once peed in his crate and if I forget to crate him when I go out, he's usually just hanging out in there when I get back, and doesn't pee inside anymore. It's definitely been helpful and he took to it really well. If you do decide to crate her, making it comfy and full of her favourite things might help!
 
My dog has mad separation anxiety. The best thing we did was get into a routine for when I leave the house, I usually turn on some mellow music or Planet Earth, get her set up with a distracting toy or treat, and make sure to say the same phrase before I leave. Any disturbance in this and it's total chaos, so I know how a change of routine can totally mess you up :( One thing I've found to save furniture is to freeze a kong ball filled with peanut butter. Best of luck!
 
I crated my dog when I first got him, covered it randomly throughout the day with a blanket and a small area for air to circulate + water. No toys during training! Toys are a reward during this period. I did this first while I was home. I first made it obvious I was home, with tv on, radio on, etc. Then when he got okay with that I would be really quiet in the house, like nobody was home. If he was okay with that then I would be quiet and get ready to go out and randomly grab my keys so he could hear it then not leave. This part is extremely important. Get him used to the rituals we do to leave to not be associated with a "build up" of anxiety. Once you do that a while, I would get ready, grab the keys, then slam the door and wait outside (out of view) and just listen. I timed how long it took for him to start getting whiney. It took him about 5 minutes so the next time I did it I only left for 3 minutes. After doing that a few times I'd leave again and add another 30 seconds. Finally when it got to where he'd be okay in the crate for about 20-30 minutes without getting anxious, I decided to ACTUALLY leave and set up my camera to record him. I picked this amount of time because that's how long it usually takes me to run an average errand. After I could see that with me ACTUALLY being gone for that time for a few times he was consistently okay in his crate covered, I started leaving for that time with the cover off. Obviously it will be harder, so wherever your dog "regresses" back to, just go back to that step and start again in baby steps. Once I got him again to be fine in an obviously empty house for 30 mins without getting TOO worked up (sometimes I had to leave the tv on for him, which I honestly am fine with anyway), I finally decided to give him a go without the crate. Again I recorded him. He seemed to regress again in progress HOWEVER I did notice with each major "step", he didn't regress as far back as the previous step and to get him to a comfortable spot again it took much less time. Again, when they are at this stage, start off small again, randomly grab your keys, purse, put clothes on, etc. and then don't leave. Just sit. When they've gotten used to that again outside of the crate, grab your stuff and sit outside and time how long it takes before they act up, and then next time you do it just come back in a minute or two before that and extend it by per minute.

I know this is SO FREAKING repetitive but I swear it worked for me (and I adopted an OLD dog), so he already had some pretty bad habits. Once I finally got him to be out of the crate not barking and crying or tearing anything up for 30 minutes I would just record him whenever I left. He still got whiney and acted up a few times but when he saw that it wasn't so bad and I'd come home relatively soon he started calming down more and more. Eventually I kept pushing it until an hour, then 2 hours, and by then it wasn't even an issue for him.

I will say when you are crate training a dog, and they won't stop yelping or barking, DO NOT FEED INTO IT!! Don't give them any kind of attention. This completely undoes everything you're trying to work towards. I know it hurts the heart and seems cruel, but they are not being hurt, they are just whining for attention. As long as he has water in his kennel and he has been fed before he goes in, he will be fine. He will tire eventually and quiet down. When they are quiet for a bit that is when it is okay to say "good puppy" or whatever in a high pitched and rewarding voice. My first puppy ever lasted 3.5 hours crying nonstop before she wore out. I waited ten mins of her being quiet and took her out to pee, eat, and get pets. The timing you wait while they are quiet/not freaking out depends on the age of the dog, and their level of "intelligence"? I guess. Maybe attention span is the better term.

Anyway this has been a book, I just know how hard it was for me to figure anything out until I spoke to professionals about what to do. It is extremely tedious to train separation anxiety out of a dog but it is so worth it when you can leave for up to 8 hours and come home to a calm sleeping dog. :)

Good luck!!
 
I crated my dog when I first got him, covered it randomly throughout the day with a blanket and a small area for air to circulate + water. No toys during training! Toys are a reward during this period. I did this first while I was home. I first made it obvious I was home, with tv on, radio on, etc. Then when he got okay with that I would be really quiet in the house, like nobody was home. If he was okay with that then I would be quiet and get ready to go out and randomly grab my keys so he could hear it then not leave. This part is extremely important. Get him used to the rituals we do to leave to not be associated with a "build up" of anxiety. Once you do that a while, I would get ready, grab the keys, then slam the door and wait outside (out of view) and just listen. I timed how long it took for him to start getting whiney. It took him about 5 minutes so the next time I did it I only left for 3 minutes. After doing that a few times I'd leave again and add another 30 seconds. Finally when it got to where he'd be okay in the crate for about 20-30 minutes without getting anxious, I decided to ACTUALLY leave and set up my camera to record him. I picked this amount of time because that's how long it usually takes me to run an average errand. After I could see that with me ACTUALLY being gone for that time for a few times he was consistently okay in his crate covered, I started leaving for that time with the cover off. Obviously it will be harder, so wherever your dog "regresses" back to, just go back to that step and start again in baby steps. Once I got him again to be fine in an obviously empty house for 30 mins without getting TOO worked up (sometimes I had to leave the tv on for him, which I honestly am fine with anyway), I finally decided to give him a go without the crate. Again I recorded him. He seemed to regress again in progress HOWEVER I did notice with each major "step", he didn't regress as far back as the previous step and to get him to a comfortable spot again it took much less time. Again, when they are at this stage, start off small again, randomly grab your keys, purse, put clothes on, etc. and then don't leave. Just sit. When they've gotten used to that again outside of the crate, grab your stuff and sit outside and time how long it takes before they act up, and then next time you do it just come back in a minute or two before that and extend it by per minute.

I know this is SO FREAKING repetitive but I swear it worked for me (and I adopted an OLD dog), so he already had some pretty bad habits. Once I finally got him to be out of the crate not barking and crying or tearing anything up for 30 minutes I would just record him whenever I left. He still got whiney and acted up a few times but when he saw that it wasn't so bad and I'd come home relatively soon he started calming down more and more. Eventually I kept pushing it until an hour, then 2 hours, and by then it wasn't even an issue for him.

I will say when you are crate training a dog, and they won't stop yelping or barking, DO NOT FEED INTO IT!! Don't give them any kind of attention. This completely undoes everything you're trying to work towards. I know it hurts the heart and seems cruel, but they are not being hurt, they are just whining for attention. As long as he has water in his kennel and he has been fed before he goes in, he will be fine. He will tire eventually and quiet down. When they are quiet for a bit that is when it is okay to say "good puppy" or whatever in a high pitched and rewarding voice. My first puppy ever lasted 3.5 hours crying nonstop before she wore out. I waited ten mins of her being quiet and took her out to pee, eat, and get pets. The timing you wait while they are quiet/not freaking out depends on the age of the dog, and their level of "intelligence"? I guess. Maybe attention span is the better term.

Anyway this has been a book, I just know how hard it was for me to figure anything out until I spoke to professionals about what to do. It is extremely tedious to train separation anxiety out of a dog but it is so worth it when you can leave for up to 8 hours and come home to a calm sleeping dog. :)

Good luck!!

Oh and obviously (I know OP knows this since she's had doggy for 8 years), but for future people reading that may not know: when you are using a crate and waiting for the tire out period, if they don't tire out before a certain amount of hours, you have to take them out to potty even if they are still barking. I think for 3 mo old pups it's like...3 or 4 hours? 4 mo old pups 4-5 hours, 5 mo old pups 5-6 hrs, 6 month old pups 6-7 hrs and anything over that they can hold it for up to 8 hours given they are not sick or something. Bathroom always trumps training!

Whenever I opened or put them in the crate I did it as quietly as possible because it can startle them and add onto their anxiety.

Thunder jackets work wonders for some dogs, and I also used some calming pills that were over the counter. They seemed to help a bit.
 
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