Considering retiring?

[mzfemmefatale]

Hey girls, I've not been on this forum for a long time because I finally retired from dancing and camming. I am now a Life Coach and I work specifically with women who want to break free from their jobs and create a life they love instead. These women are usually stuck because they don't have a solid exit strategy and may not be feeling totally confident about what they would rather be doing.

Does this sound like you? I left dancing because I finally burned out for the last time. Then I took up camming/cyber-domming until I burned out on that too. A decade later and I didn't have an exit plan in place, or any money when I finally stopped so I ended up moving in with my mom and suffering depression and anxiety, not to mention felt humiliated and frustrated because of how I had ended up.

This doesn't need to happen to you. I invested in working with a life coach to get myself back on track and feeling confident enough to build my own business. Then I invested in a business coach to help me launch that business. Now I have a thriving coaching business supporting women in making the transition from their soul-destroying jobs (wether or not as a dancer or cammer) and moving forward to creating a life true to their values and dreams.

If you've been considering retiring but not sure what to do next (very hard to go back into the work-force after years of dancing), I am happy to set up a complimentary 30min Skype chat to find out what it is you'd love to be doing instead and how we can work out a plan of action to help you do so. Just shoot me an email at hellyeah@selfmadedame.com letting me know your timezone so I can schedule you in. I'd love to chat with you!

Big love
Lisa

 

[Alexis_Skinny]

Everything about this post is absolutely insulting. Go spam somewhere else.

 

[PunkInDrublic]

What exactly was insulting about her post? The soul destroying part?

 

[Rose]

Sounds more like someone who can't be happy with their life no matter what they do.

 

[JessieWolfe]

It's a good thing I wasn't born with a soul #gingerlife

 

[mynameisbob84]

It's spammy and posting on a site like this might suggest she's not completely aware of her audience - not to mention she doesn't share any of her credentials - but I don't see why it would be insulting necessarily. She's not saying if you're a cam girl then you must be unhappy, come talk to me about an exit strategy at once. She's just saying 'if you're feeling burnt out, if you're unhappy, if you're unsure about how to move on from camming, I can offer some free advice'. Whether or not it's good advice... who knows? But I didn't see a whole lot to be insulted by :twocents-02cents:

 

[PunkInDrublic]

I'm a life coach too(lol) and I got some super secret tips for camgirls and strippers so you don't end up as a sex worker cliche. I know this idea is foreign to most of them but it is possible to save money, I'm totally serious here, it is possible to open one of them bank account things and put money into it so that when you get old you can retire and just chill all day.

 

[ACFFAN69]

women in making the transition from their soul-destroying jobs

So as a cam member, patron to strip clubs and enabler of all things sexy does that make me a soul-destroyer? Cause I think that would be a pretty fucking cool title to have!

ACFFAN69 - Destroying souls since 2009.

 

[BarbieLuv]

I do believe that not having any money saved up at the end of a career, regardless of what field you're in, is a personal finance issue and not one that's tied in any way to burnout.

Instead of saying :
"Hey, if you don't have any money saved up, I can TOTES get you out of the HORRIBLE sex work spiral you're in!"

You should say:
"Ladies, did nobody ever really teach you how to handle different lines of credit, how much to withhold for taxes, and how to draft and stick to a budget? Were you essentially thrown out into the world with little to no knowledge of personal finance or how to manage a household? If so, then you're like most people, and you shouldn't feel bad about it! What will help is getting involved with a CPA who specializes in adult industry money management (if any verified model wants the info of the guy I use, send me a PM), researching different ways to budget and finding one that works for you (you can do this via spreadsheet, apps, etc.), and sign up for a free service like CreditKarma so you can track your credit history! You can do this and figure it out, and it'll be great!"

Wow, maybe I'm a life coach too! But I guess I just gave away all of my sound advice for free instead of trying to charge other girls for it, so maybe I'm just a nice person instead. :lol:

 

[BarbieLuv]

It's spammy and posting on a site like this might suggest she's not completely aware of her audience - not to mention she doesn't share any of her credentials - but I don't see why it would be insulting necessarily. She's not saying if you're a cam girl then you must be unhappy, come talk to me about an exit strategy at once. She's just saying 'if you're feeling burnt out, if you're unhappy, if you're unsure about how to move on from camming, I can offer some free advice'. Whether or not it's good advice... who knows? But I didn't see a whole lot to be insulted by :twocents-02cents:

I'm not insulted necessarily by the sex work thing, I'm more insulted that she's targeting women on here who aren't in a good place financially by offering a 'free consultation' to 'make a plan'... and of course everything after the initial consultation (namely: putting that plan that's supposedly going to help into action) is going to be charged at god knows how high of an hourly rate for god only knows what actual returns. It's the same thing that a lot of businesses will do to get people in the doors, the old "Here's something free so you'll get hooked and buy what we're selling!" plan. So essentially, it's preying on those who are already struggling with money or who are actually in desperate situations and then turning around and making them turn over MORE of their hard-earned money to be 'saved'. That just leaves a bad taste in my mouth, man. :?

 

[Sevrin]

So, other than life-coach for retired cam models, what would be a good retirement option for a retired cam model?

You know, it's kind of sad that some professional options where sex work experience would be helpful, and I'm not even being sarcastic, namely early childhood care and geriatric care, are professions that could very well be off-limits for former sex workers just because they are former sex workers. A lot of sex work is indistinguishable from social work, when you get right down to it.

 

[AerynShade]

So, other than life-coach for retired cam models, what would be a good retirement option for a retired cam model?

You know, it's kind of sad that some professional options where sex work experience would be helpful, and I'm not even being sarcastic, namely early childhood care and geriatric care, are professions that could very well be off-limits for former sex workers just because they are former sex workers. A lot of sex work is indistinguishable from social work, when you get right down to it.

Honestly, a really good post-cam job would be a librarian. Libraries are really liberal organizations. They don't do background checks. They'd be giddy at our customer service abilities. They'd pounce on our abilities to make graphics, edit video footage, work social media pages...

Really ladies, if you ever tire of camming, try a part-time library job. They'll fucking love you.

 

[JerryBoBerry]

So, other than life-coach for retired cam models, what would be a good retirement option for a retired cam model?

You know, it's kind of sad that some professional options where sex work experience would be helpful, and I'm not even being sarcastic, namely early childhood care and geriatric care, are professions that could very well be off-limits for former sex workers just because they are former sex workers. A lot of sex work is indistinguishable from social work, when you get right down to it.

Honestly, a really good post-cam job would be a librarian. Libraries are really liberal organizations. They don't do background checks. They'd be giddy at our customer service abilities. They'd pounce on our abilities to make graphics, edit video footage, work social media pages...

Really ladies, if you ever tire of camming, try a part-time library job. They'll fucking love you.

Most librarians these days require a Masters degree in library science just for entry level positions. Some even require more, like a teaching certificate to go with that. Also libraries very much do background checks. Full criminal check with the FBI getting your fingerprints at the very least. This is the day and age of sexual predators. They don't hire anyone to work around kids without checking them out anymore.

It's a good job. But not one you're likely to just hop into without a lot of forethought and education.

http://www.bls.gov/ooh/education-traini ... arians.htm


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[AerynShade]

If you want to work in a school library, yeah.

I'm not suggesting that. I'm suggesting part-time public library work. The kind you only need a high school diploma for. The kind that doesn't require a background check. The kind I had for 8 years.

 

[Gen]

If you want to work in a school library, yeah.

I'm not suggesting that. I'm suggesting part-time public library work. The kind you only need a high school diploma for. The kind that doesn't require a background check. The kind I had for 8 years.

Libraries up here are harsh! My friend got her Bachelor's and then a diploma in Library science and couldn't find work without a Masters. I looked at a few student-specific library jobs and they won't take anyone who's in undergrad, gotta be at least studying for your masters or PhD (not even a librarian type job!). I'm jealous because it seems like such a nice place to work :crybaby:

 

[ACFFAN69]

This is the day and age of sexual predators. They don't hire anyone to work around kids without checking them out anymore.

If the World was a fair and just place camming would be the perfect reference for someone to retire from and go into a job working with children.
From what I've seen with how good MFC girls are with public chat they would make the best kindergarten teachers ever.

 

[LaceyRoyce]

Coaching & Consulting can be a legit business.

The OP could have been phrased WAY WAY better (it could have acknowledged that NOT everyone feels trapped camming/dancing) and it really really needs some credentials. And it was a bit icky spammy.

But I don't think it's unfair to imply that someone shouldn't charge for time/advice which some of the responses did.

I hired a fantastic personal organizer a few years ago who changed my entire life. I probably could have had a friend with more organizational prowess help with it, but when you pay someone they don't flake, show up on time, and its nice to have someone completely removed from your life help you take stock of whatever area it is you need help with.

I also don't think it's insulting or shady to offer a free consultation. I made use of about 10 free lawyer consults before picking the one I thought was best. I like being able to go in and talk to someone before I buy their services, especially when it's someone you'll need to form a solid connection with.

My therapist, personal trainer and personal organizer all offered the same initial free consultation. Even the guy who did my yard offered that.

 

[SexySteph]

women in making the transition from their soul-destroying jobs

So as a cam member, patron to strip clubs and enabler of all things sexy does that make me a soul-destroyer? Cause I think that would be a pretty fucking cool title to have!

ACFFAN69 - Destroying souls since 2009.

She also said "whether or not they be camming or sex work". I don't think she was implying camming is so destroying. Just that ANY job can be soul destroying and if you want out of whatever is destroying her soul she's happy to help.

 

[HiGirlsRHot]

Coaching & Consulting can be a legit business.

The OP could have been phrased WAY WAY better (it could have acknowledged that NOT everyone feels trapped camming/dancing) and it really really needs some credentials. And it was a bit icky spammy.

But I don't think it's unfair to imply that someone shouldn't charge for time/advice which some of the responses did. ...

I also don't think it's insulting or shady to offer a free consultation. I made use of about 10 free lawyer consults before picking the one I thought was best. I like being able to go in and talk to someone before I buy their services, especially when it's someone you'll need to form a solid connection with.

My therapist, personal trainer and personal organizer all offered the same initial free consultation. Even the guy who did my yard offered that.

I really agree. I know that many camgirls hope/wish that camming can be a long-term career. I think the nearly 1/2 the camgirls on my friends list (and I've not even been on MFC 3 years yet) that haven't logged in for 6 months+, point to the wisdom of having plan B or plan C, cause saving enough money from camming to retire just isn't going to happen for most models.

I really do think that good camgirls learn some important skills which can be translated into vanilla jobs. It is also not the type of job that you could walk into the career counselor at community college or similar place and get particularly useful guidance. It is not much different than a returning Sargent who had a couple of tours in Iraq and Afghanistan, trying to understand how avoiding IEDs, leading his squad, and working with the local tribesman, are skills that are useful in the civilian world. A former camgirl who has been there and done that could offer some valuable specific suggestions that would be worth paying for..

That said, I will say the OP post didn't inspire particular confidence

 

[NyxieDay]

This is the day and age of sexual predators. They don't hire anyone to work around kids without checking them out anymore.

If the World was a fair and just place camming would be the perfect reference for someone to retire from and go into a job working with children.
From what I've seen with how good MFC girls are with public chat they would make the best kindergarten teachers ever.

"No, we do not play with our poo here, that is against the rules."

Wow. Damn. You're right.

 

[Sevrin]

Coaching & Consulting can be a legit business.

The OP could have been phrased WAY WAY better (it could have acknowledged that NOT everyone feels trapped camming/dancing) and it really really needs some credentials. And it was a bit icky spammy.

But I don't think it's unfair to imply that someone shouldn't charge for time/advice which some of the responses did.

I hired a fantastic personal organizer a few years ago who changed my entire life. I probably could have had a friend with more organizational prowess help with it, but when you pay someone they don't flake, show up on time, and its nice to have someone completely removed from your life help you take stock of whatever area it is you need help with.

I also don't think it's insulting or shady to offer a free consultation. I made use of about 10 free lawyer consults before picking the one I thought was best. I like being able to go in and talk to someone before I buy their services, especially when it's someone you'll need to form a solid connection with.

My therapist, personal trainer and personal organizer all offered the same initial free consultation. Even the guy who did my yard offered that.

Yeah, but try to get a free personal masturbation coaching consultation, and see how far that will get you.

 

[Camgirl]

Coaching & Consulting can be a legit business.

The OP could have been phrased WAY WAY better (it could have acknowledged that NOT everyone feels trapped camming/dancing) and it really really needs some credentials. And it was a bit icky spammy.

But I don't think it's unfair to imply that someone shouldn't charge for time/advice which some of the responses did.

I hired a fantastic personal organizer a few years ago who changed my entire life. I probably could have had a friend with more organizational prowess help with it, but when you pay someone they don't flake, show up on time, and its nice to have someone completely removed from your life help you take stock of whatever area it is you need help with.

I also don't think it's insulting or shady to offer a free consultation. I made use of about 10 free lawyer consults before picking the one I thought was best. I like being able to go in and talk to someone before I buy their services, especially when it's someone you'll need to form a solid connection with.

My therapist, personal trainer and personal organizer all offered the same initial free consultation. Even the guy who did my yard offered that.

Yeah, but try to get a free personal masturbation coaching consultation, and see how far that will get you.

Ha! I give free consultations all day long.....it's called free chat. :lol: I kid, I kid...

 

[HiGirlsRHot]

[quote="Sevrin"

Yeah, but try to get a free personal masturbation coaching consultation, and see how far that will get you.[/quote]

There are some pretty great, pretty cheap jack off instruction videos, and off course Camgirl is right free chat bb.

 

[zippypinhead]

women in making the transition from their soul-destroying jobs

So as a cam member, patron to strip clubs and enabler of all things sexy does that make me a soul-destroyer? Cause I think that would be a pretty fucking cool title to have!

ACFFAN69 - Destroying souls since 2009.

She also said "whether or not they be camming or sex work". I don't think she was implying camming is so destroying. Just that ANY job can be soul destroying and if you want out of whatever is destroying her soul she's happy to help.

But don't worry, ACFFAN, I'm sure you're perfectly capable of destroying souls if you want to.