Cam score & tipping questions

[A214]

Hi, just a couple questions that have been on my mind.

1)What does a higher cam score mean to models? Do they get a higher percentage of tips, or just move up in ranking? I know there is a monthly contest, but that seems won by only a few ladies.

2)After reading the thread on 1 token yellow walls, I was wondering if it mattered if I tipped 10 tokens 10 times as opposed to 100 tokens once. Does it effect the cam score at all?

Thanks

 

[Evvie]

Hi, just a couple questions that have been on my mind.

1)What does a higher cam score mean to models? Do they get a higher percentage of tips, or just move up in ranking? I know there is a monthly contest, but that seems won by only a few ladies.

2)After reading the thread on 1 token yellow walls, I was wondering if it mattered if I tipped 10 tokens 10 times as opposed to 100 tokens once. Does it effect the cam score at all?

Thanks

https://www.ambercutie.com/forums/viewt ... t=camscore

They only move up in ranking.

It does not matter in what amounts you send tokens. The only thing that ever matters is total tokens received per hour.

 

[JerryBoBerry]

Hi, just a couple questions that have been on my mind.

1)What does a higher cam score mean to models? Do they get a higher percentage of tips, or just move up in ranking? I know there is a monthly contest, but that seems won by only a few ladies.

2)After reading the thread on 1 token yellow walls, I was wondering if it mattered if I tipped 10 tokens 10 times as opposed to 100 tokens once. Does it effect the cam score at all?

Thanks

https://www.ambercutie.com/forums/viewt ... t=camscore

They only move up in ranking.

It does not matter in what amounts you send tokens. The only thing that ever matters is total tokens received per hour.

Link to models section no work for us mundanes.

 

[Evvie]

Hi, just a couple questions that have been on my mind.

1)What does a higher cam score mean to models? Do they get a higher percentage of tips, or just move up in ranking? I know there is a monthly contest, but that seems won by only a few ladies.

2)After reading the thread on 1 token yellow walls, I was wondering if it mattered if I tipped 10 tokens 10 times as opposed to 100 tokens once. Does it effect the cam score at all?

Thanks

https://www.ambercutie.com/forums/viewt ... t=camscore

They only move up in ranking.

It does not matter in what amounts you send tokens. The only thing that ever matters is total tokens received per hour.

Link to models section no work for us mundanes.

D'oh

Thought it was a public thing.

I will summarize: the entire thread is 5 pages of explaining, "the only thing that counts towards camscore is total tokens earned per hour."

 

[LaceyRoyce]

Camscore means traffic. Camscores are how girls are organized on the main page, as the default view. This means that if i have a 400 cam score, i will be on page 2 and get virtually no traffic in my room. If i have a camscore of 8000 i will be 2nd or 3rd line at high traffic times, and low traffic i could end up in the first row.

Camscore is determined by tokens per hour, averaged over a 60 day period, averaged against all the other models on the site.

It does not make us any more money directly, but if i have 100 people in my room its MUCH easier to get tokens than if i have 2 people.

AS for The top 20/top 100 contest - its is purely based on earnings. The model that earns the most on mfc that month comes #1, and so forth. Anyone in the top 100 gets a cash bonus - those bonuses get higher as they get higher ranked. The cash bonuses are a small amount compared to the # of tokens that it takes to get into the top 100 or top 20 but they are nice! However the publicity of having your name visable in that list is great, and if you place top 3 you get a little crown on your avatar, (making members click you) and your image will be rotated through the banners at the top of the site. This is all excellent publicity and exposure.

Hope this helps!

 

[pg240]

Camscore means traffic. Camscores are how girls are organized on the main page, as the default view. This means that if i have a 400 cam score, i will be on page 2 and get virtually no traffic in my room. If i have a camscore of 8000 i will be 2nd or 3rd line at high traffic times, and low traffic i could end up in the first row.

Camscore is determined by tokens per hour, averaged over a 60 day period, averaged against all the other models on the site.

It does not make us any more money directly, but if i have 100 people in my room its MUCH easier to get tokens than if i have 2 people.

AS for The top 20/top 100 contest - its is purely based on earnings. The model that earns the most on mfc that month comes #1, and so forth. Anyone in the top 100 gets a cash bonus - those bonuses get higher as they get higher ranked. The cash bonuses are a small amount compared to the # of tokens that it takes to get into the top 100 or top 20 but they are nice! However the publicity of having your name visable in that list is great, and if you place top 3 you get a little crown on your avatar, (making members click you) and your image will be rotated through the banners at the top of the site. This is all excellent publicity and exposure.

Hope this helps!

It always strikes me as odd that people who make a lot of money earn even more money or gifts as a reward. It's like when an All-Star Game MVP wins a car. Hell, ball players can afford their own cars, so donate a car or an equivalent amount of cash to a charity in the ball player's name instead. Celebrities show up at awards shows and get swag bags full of expensive gifts. Again, they can afford all that shit themselves. I know it's the way things are done, but it just irks me when the wealthy get fawned over and bestowed with largesse.

As for Miss MFC, I know this is an entirely different concept. I know those top-earning models work their butts off and deserve every cent they get -- earnings and rewards. They must log unbelievable hours and have to really excel at what they do. And the cash bonuses are a nice gesture on MFC's part. But I think you're correct that the list exposure and publicity are far more valuable than the cash.

But the list and attendant exposure don't seem to work on me. Maybe I should spread my tokens around more, but for some reason I don't gravitate toward models in the running for Miss MFC. Not because they're on the list. It just seems to work out that way. Maybe I subconsciously feel they can do without my few tokens and they'd be more useful to someone else? Don't know. But I do know that I've never visited -- so obviously never tipped -- anyone in the current top 20, and only one in the current top 100.

OK, don't know how I got to where I did, but I'll stop now before I dig the hole any deeper!

 

[PlayboyMegan]

Camscore means traffic. Camscores are how girls are organized on the main page, as the default view. This means that if i have a 400 cam score, i will be on page 2 and get virtually no traffic in my room. If i have a camscore of 8000 i will be 2nd or 3rd line at high traffic times, and low traffic i could end up in the first row.

Camscore is determined by tokens per hour, averaged over a 60 day period, averaged against all the other models on the site.

It does not make us any more money directly, but if i have 100 people in my room its MUCH easier to get tokens than if i have 2 people.

AS for The top 20/top 100 contest - its is purely based on earnings. The model that earns the most on mfc that month comes #1, and so forth. Anyone in the top 100 gets a cash bonus - those bonuses get higher as they get higher ranked. The cash bonuses are a small amount compared to the # of tokens that it takes to get into the top 100 or top 20 but they are nice! However the publicity of having your name visable in that list is great, and if you place top 3 you get a little crown on your avatar, (making members click you) and your image will be rotated through the banners at the top of the site. This is all excellent publicity and exposure.

Hope this helps!

It always strikes me as odd that people who make a lot of money earn even more money or gifts as a reward. It's like when an All-Star Game MVP wins a car. Hell, ball players can afford their own cars, so donate a car or an equivalent amount of cash to a charity in the ball player's name instead. Celebrities show up at awards shows and get swag bags full of expensive gifts. Again, they can afford all that shit themselves. I know it's the way things are done, but it just irks me when the wealthy get fawned over and bestowed with largesse.

As for Miss MFC, I know this is an entirely different concept. I know those top-earning models work their butts off and deserve every cent they get -- earnings and rewards. They must log unbelievable hours and have to really excel at what they do. And the cash bonuses are a nice gesture on MFC's part. But I think you're correct that the list exposure and publicity are far more valuable than the cash.

But the list and attendant exposure don't seem to work on me. Maybe I should spread my tokens around more, but for some reason I don't gravitate toward models in the running for Miss MFC. Not because they're on the list. It just seems to work out that way. Maybe I subconsciously feel they can do without my few tokens and they'd be more useful to someone else? Don't know. But I do know that I've never visited -- so obviously never tipped -- anyone in the current top 20, and only one in the current top 100.

OK, don't know how I got to where I did, but I'll stop now before I dig the hole any deeper!

Celebrities get free stuff so they'll sponsor it for free. If I had a clothing line, I'd want to have top models, like Amber, wear it on cam over a girl who gets no traffic. I think you are making comparisons to two completely different things.

 

[pg240]

Camscore means traffic. Camscores are how girls are organized on the main page, as the default view. This means that if i have a 400 cam score, i will be on page 2 and get virtually no traffic in my room. If i have a camscore of 8000 i will be 2nd or 3rd line at high traffic times, and low traffic i could end up in the first row.

Camscore is determined by tokens per hour, averaged over a 60 day period, averaged against all the other models on the site.

It does not make us any more money directly, but if i have 100 people in my room its MUCH easier to get tokens than if i have 2 people.

AS for The top 20/top 100 contest - its is purely based on earnings. The model that earns the most on mfc that month comes #1, and so forth. Anyone in the top 100 gets a cash bonus - those bonuses get higher as they get higher ranked. The cash bonuses are a small amount compared to the # of tokens that it takes to get into the top 100 or top 20 but they are nice! However the publicity of having your name visable in that list is great, and if you place top 3 you get a little crown on your avatar, (making members click you) and your image will be rotated through the banners at the top of the site. This is all excellent publicity and exposure.

Hope this helps!

It always strikes me as odd that people who make a lot of money earn even more money or gifts as a reward. It's like when an All-Star Game MVP wins a car. Hell, ball players can afford their own cars, so donate a car or an equivalent amount of cash to a charity in the ball player's name instead. Celebrities show up at awards shows and get swag bags full of expensive gifts. Again, they can afford all that shit themselves. I know it's the way things are done, but it just irks me when the wealthy get fawned over and bestowed with largesse.

As for Miss MFC, I know this is an entirely different concept. I know those top-earning models work their butts off and deserve every cent they get -- earnings and rewards. They must log unbelievable hours and have to really excel at what they do. And the cash bonuses are a nice gesture on MFC's part. But I think you're correct that the list exposure and publicity are far more valuable than the cash.

But the list and attendant exposure don't seem to work on me. Maybe I should spread my tokens around more, but for some reason I don't gravitate toward models in the running for Miss MFC. Not because they're on the list. It just seems to work out that way. Maybe I subconsciously feel they can do without my few tokens and they'd be more useful to someone else? Don't know. But I do know that I've never visited -- so obviously never tipped -- anyone in the current top 20, and only one in the current top 100.

OK, don't know how I got to where I did, but I'll stop now before I dig the hole any deeper!

Celebrities get free stuff so they'll sponsor it for free. If I had a clothing line, I'd want to have top models, like Amber, wear it on cam over a girl who gets no traffic. I think you are making comparisons to two completely different things.

That makes perfect business sense to me, Megan. And I was indeed comparing different things. Just got on the wrong soapbox. Should have done it in the pet peeves thread.

 

[Falke]

Do offline tips increase the cam score, or does it only include tips given while the model is in chat? I have heard both claims, but I assume it includes all tips.

On the subject of cam scores, I wish that MFC would make clearer to members that rates and admires do not affect the score, because it seems like many members either don't know that or try to manipulate new models by lying to them about it. I guess MFC is just hesitant to admit that two of their features available to basics really don't do anything. For example, I can't recall ever seeing a model with fewer than 4 or 5 stars, anyway, and there is no way to gauge what 150 "admirers" actually means compared to 60.

I think Miss_Lollipop is really right about cam score being most important for a model's position in the room listings. From my perspective as a member, the picture quality tends to be worse among models with lower scores (lower quality picture probably leads to fewer people in the room, less in tips, lower cam score, and so on in a downward spiral). So, I have to admit that sometimes I don't look much past the first page, because it seems that so many rooms have grainy or very dark video feeds, and perfectly nice models with perfectly good feeds get lost in the visual clutter.

 

[Shaun__]

Do offline tips increase the cam score, or does it only include tips given while the model is in chat? I have heard both claims, but I assume it includes all tips.

On the subject of cam scores, I wish that MFC would make clearer to members that rates and admires do not affect the score, because it seems like many members either don't know that or try to manipulate new models by lying to them about it. I guess MFC is just hesitant to admit that two of their features available to basics really don't do anything. For example, I can't recall ever seeing a model with fewer than 4 or 5 stars, anyway, and there is no way to gauge what 150 "admirers" actually means compared to 60.

I think Miss_Lollipop is really right about cam score being most important for a model's position in the room listings. From my perspective as a member, the picture quality tends to be worse among models with lower scores (lower quality picture probably leads to fewer people in the room, less in tips, lower cam score, and so on in a downward spiral). So, I have to admit that sometimes I don't look much past the first page, because it seems that so many rooms have grainy or very dark video feeds, and perfectly nice models with perfectly good feeds get lost in the visual clutter.

All tips count the same.

 

[Kittycatpurr]

Offline tips can help increase camscore as they are tokens earned whilst the model is not logged on, meaning that they can up a model's hourly average. In other words that more tokens are logged over less hours online. Camscore is average earnings over a 60 day period as in tokens earned over 60 days divided by hours spent online (whether working or just logged in on model account) over that 60 days. Of course if a model gets lots of offline tips but hardly any when she's online the offline tips just balance the lack when online. But, if she earns a lot online and then she gets some bg offline tips too you will see her camscore go up provided her online average stays constant.

There has been some talk of average amount of models logging on in any given period having some esoteric effect on camscore which may be true. I've certainly seen mine have some odd unexplained leaps and crashes without anything significant 'dropping off the back end' of the 60 day window before. Probably the average amount of tokens per month coming into the site as a whole too. These I believe are the 'other certain factors that even we admin people don't understand and couldn't possibly explain' to paraphrase some clear as mud explanation given in the site wiki. LOL

 

[bawksy]

Offline tips can help increase camscore

This is true. They help increase camscore exactly the same amount as online tips do. Leave it at that and don't confuse the issue.

 

[LaceyRoyce]

Offline tips can help increase camscore

This is true. They help increase camscore exactly the same amount as online tips do. Leave it at that and don't confuse the issue.

Sorry to confuse but ..trying to make this clearer..my understanding is

if i make 100tks in offline tips i have made 100tks/0 minutes = 100
If i make 100tks in ten minutes online I have made 100tks/10 minutes = 10.

thus offline tips count for more becuase you're essentially earning them in LESS time. Tokens per hr...



Math is NOT my strong point so if I'm way off on this please someone tell me? But this was how it made sense to me in my head..

 

[bawksy]

Math is NOT my strong point so

I can see that from the fact that you just divided by zero.

Camscore is calculated from the TOTAL tokens you've made over the last 60 days divided by the TOTAL time you've been on cam over those 60 days, compared to every other cam model on the site. This means that, assuming other models aren't changing, if you make more tokens and/or work fewer hours, your camscore will go up. This leads a lot of girls to the false conclusion that making tokens offline will increase their camscore the most, because how can you make tokens in faster than 0 hours?

The problem here is that camscore is not calculated from how fast you made that one tip on that one day. It's looking at the entire 60 days. The only possible way an offline tip can come close to counting for "more" than an online tip is if the fact of somebody making an offline tip causes you to cancel a shift that you had otherwise planned on working AND the fact of you cancelling that shift doesn't actually reduce your camscore from token income more than that one tip gained you. You'd also have to not make the shift up later in the month. Even in this sliver of a case, the cam score boost is not worth noticeably more than if you had logged in for 5 minutes, gotten that same exact tip online, and logged off.

Thus it's confusing to say that the fact of a tip being made offline is what made it count for more. It's not; it's just the fact that it caused you to work less, which was your decision. Tokens are tokens are tokens, and they all go into the same pile to compare to how many hours you worked at the end of the 60 days.

 

[AmberCutie]

I think getting more elaborate about it only confuses people further.

The problem is that people (members and models alike) think that offline tips are weighted more heavily than online tips. That is the part that absolutely isn't true.

Bawksy is right in that if a model gets a big enough offline tip that she doesn't need to get on cam that day, or work significantly less time that day to achieve her usual goal, that helps the camscore in the long run. But it needs to be something significant.

MissLollipop is right in her math, even though she divided by zero. :lol: But in the grand scheme of things, 100 tokens doesn't make an impact.

I see girls posting constantly things like "omg I got a 1000 token tip offline yesterday and my camscore didn't move. what gives!?" It's averaged over 60 calendar days as well as (we are pretty darn sure) averaged on what all the other active models on the site are earning. It's really hard to see any immediate, direct change in camscore due to this.

 

[LaceyRoyce]

Math is NOT my strong point so

I can see that from the fact that you just divided by zero.

I was trying to make it simple. It made sense to me? Obviously any number divided by 0 is..not being divided by anything at all. So its HIGHER than a number that is actually being divided.

10 divided by nothing is 10
10 divided by something is... something under 10.

....

and I do understand that its your TOTAL tks/TOTAL hrs But the more you make offline, the more your hourly average goes up. So it does affect your total. 100tks was a simple easy example, but obviously that won't make much difference.

I'm not saying they are weighted differently at all.. just that you make more tokens in less time if its an offline tip..

I feel I'm just confusing people more .. It makes sense to me LOL. What amber and bawksy said was what I was trying to say, so maybe I just said it wrong.

 

[Kradek]

10 divided by nothing is 10
10 divided by something is... something under 10.

Don't worry, you're just making the math/programmer nerds unhappy. 10/1 is 10. 10/.5 is 20 (greater than 10). 10/0 is undefined. I heard it's where balrogs come from.

 

[bawksy]

10 divided by nothing is 10

No no no no no. Like Kradek said, 1 is what you divide things by to keep them the same, not 0. There is no such thing as dividing by zero. It doesn't mean anything. It's meaningless. Undefined. You just can't do it. Hence the jokes about Balrogs and lakes with vortexes in them.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_identity_property_of_Division

10 divided by something is... something under 10.

Again, like Kradek demonstrated, flat-out wrong, in the case where the first "something" is between 0 and 1.


If you're purposely trolling me to make me nerd rage, you're winning.

I feel I'm just confusing people more

Reminds me of a recent post I made...

 

[LaceyRoyce]

Consider myself edumacated.

 

[LaceyRoyce]

If you're purposely trolling me to make me nerd rage, you're winning.

WAIT

I SUCCESSFULLY TROLLED BAWKSY??


I guess I only get the achievement badge if I was doing it on purpose.


Hi I'm Lolli.. I have a degree in english literature, and classical history and they let me drop math when I was 14 so I could take latin instead. #WIN

 

[Nordling]

Don't be silly. Accidental trolls are adorable. Intentional trolls are creepy. lol


*for the record, I don't consider Bawksy a troll.

 

[bawksy]

WAIT

I SUCCESSFULLY TROLLED BAWKSY??

Haha yeah. You win. +1 internets.


I guess you could say bad math and woman logic are my triggers.

 

[LiLredhairedgrl]

This is the #3 in an article entitled "5 Tiny Computer Glitches That Caused Huge Disasters".

The Navy Tries to Divide by Zero

The Tiny Mistake:

If you've worked in an office or at a school, you know the pain of using an operating system chosen by a committee of people who don't understand your job. Left to your own devices, you'd use the software best suited to your actual work, but your supervisors have other concerns in mind. While the design department might be better off on a Mac, accounting knows perfectly well that the latest version of Windows is going to be cheaper and is perfectly serviceable for the numbers they need to crunch. It's a cost-benefit analysis, and almost always someone gets screwed in the transaction.

"I'm sorry, guys, but I've done the math and MS Paint makes more sense for graphic design from a financial standpoint."

It sucks, but that's just part of life in a big office. At least your boss doesn't have the power to control what you use at home.

The Fallout:

Of course, when you work on a super-advanced Navy smart boat, your home itself runs off of an operating system. In 1996, the Navy decided to retrofit the billion dollar USS Yorktown with a bank of 27 computers, each with a dual 200 MHz processor (roughly one-fifth as powerful as a current iPhone). The upgrades were intended to automate much of the Yorktown's processes, shaving off $2.8 million in operation costs.

Much like a vibrator, it put thousands of hard-working seamen out of work.

Turns out the Navy is a PC. They elected to run the most advanced boat in the world on Windows NT, which was basically the Vista of its time. That worked about as well as you'd expect, which is to say it screwed up constantly. Techs on the boat scrambled to fix software bugs that popped up like mushrooms on Microsoft's latest steaming pile of cow dung.

"If it can handle Red Alert, it can handle a real war."

Things came to a head on September 21, 1997, when the USS Yorktown attempted to divide by zero. This caused what is called a buffer overflow error, which crashed the entire boat and left the most badass cruiser in the history of war floating crippled and dumb in the middle of the ocean. Eventually, the Navy was forced to tow the Yorktown's broken ass back to port.

Hey, let's try something real quick. Pull out a cheap calculator and try to divide a number by zero. It won't work, but you may notice your calculator doesn't immediately break. The Yorktown was slightly less resilient. As one shipboard systems expert put it, "The computers on the Yorktown were not designed to handle such a simple failure."

"Shit. Can we get a rain check on that 'war' thing? The whole boat just blue-screened."

Read more:http://www.cracked.com/article_1951...that-caused-huge-disasters.html#ixzz2XLQQiL8I

 

[pg240]

This is the #3 in an article entitled "5 Tiny Computer Glitches That Caused Huge Disasters".

The Navy Tries to Divide by Zero

Much like a vibrator, it put thousands of hard-working seamen out of work.

What a classic line!

 

[RainbowBryte]

Math is NOT my strong point so

I can see that from the fact that you just divided by zero.

Camscore is calculated from the TOTAL tokens you've made over the last 60 days divided by the TOTAL time you've been on cam over those 60 days, compared to every other cam model on the site. This means that, assuming other models aren't changing, if you make more tokens and/or work fewer hours, your camscore will go up. This leads a lot of girls to the false conclusion that making tokens offline will increase their camscore the most, because how can you make tokens in faster than 0 hours?

The problem here is that camscore is not calculated from how fast you made that one tip on that one day. It's looking at the entire 60 days. The only possible way an offline tip can come close to counting for "more" than an online tip is if the fact of somebody making an offline tip causes you to cancel a shift that you had otherwise planned on working AND the fact of you cancelling that shift doesn't actually reduce your camscore from token income more than that one tip gained you. You'd also have to not make the shift up later in the month. Even in this sliver of a case, the cam score boost is not worth noticeably more than if you had logged in for 5 minutes, gotten that same exact tip online, and logged off.

Thus it's confusing to say that the fact of a tip being made offline is what made it count for more. It's not; it's just the fact that it caused you to work less, which was your decision. Tokens are tokens are tokens, and they all go into the same pile to compare to how many hours you worked at the end of the 60 days.

You wouldn't have to take time off for it to matter. Lets say in 60 days i made 28,000 tks i worked 70 hours, So my average is 400 tks an hour I would have about a 1000 CS. Now lets say someone drops me a 2000 tk offline tip between camming shifts, now Im at 30000 for 70 hours, that puts me at 428.57 tks an hour and raises my score AT LEAST by a few points, not sure how much, lol. Now, I could get on the next night and make my normal 400tks and hour maybe even a tiny bit more due to my slightly better page placement. The score may drop a TINY bit I mean lets say I make 400 tks an hour the next night im on and work 2 hours so I would then be at 30,800tks in 72 hours id be at 427.77 which is still up from my 400 average.

Sorry I hope that made sense.

 

[bawksy]

What point are you trying to prove? In the scenario you presented, the result of getting that offline 2000 token tip is EXACTLY THE SAME as if you had gotten an extra 2000 tokens while online during any of those other shifts.

 

[NataliaGrey]

Although it's very nice to wake up to a surprise offline tip, I actually prefer getting online ones. If I'm online and someone's planning on tipping for a specific thing (panties, content, Skype time, etc.) they will sometimes ask if I want it when I get offline. I say they can go ahead and do it now. It makes no difference if I'm going to be online anyway, and I think that if someone sees one person tip, they're sometimes inclined to tip as well and join in on the fun.

 

[Mirah]

Although it's very nice to wake up to a surprise offline tip, I actually prefer getting online ones. If I'm online and someone's planning on tipping for a specific thing (panties, content, Skype time, etc.) they will sometimes ask if I want it when I get offline. I say they can go ahead and do it now. It makes no difference if I'm going to be online anyway, and I think that if someone sees one person tip, they're sometimes inclined to tip as well and join in on the fun.

yes. I find that it doesn't encourage people to tip me MORE than they had planned to so it doesn't really matter to me if its on or offline. and when its online, it means I can hang out and have fun more!

 

[Evvie]

My understanding is that if you receive a significant tip offline, it is weighted against fewer hours. If you include an extra shift in that 60 day period, even if you make your goal, the significant tip is weighted against more hours, thus decreasing the boost to tokens per hour.

However, in the end I think it's all a bit of a moot point.

I believe all models on MFC should have a basic understanding of camscore, but there comes a point when it turns in to an exercise of navel-gazing. Not that navel-gazing isn't fun (and moreso if a little stoned), and even though it isn't my concern, I worry that some models read too much in to it.

Take the above scenario: Somewhere there is a model stressing about whether or not she should get online after a big offline tip because she is worried about how it will affect her camscore. In the long run it may very well be much better for her earnings and career (and long-term camscore) if she gets online and does an extra shift. In the short term, she may discard those benefits because she is worried about a 10-point camscore change.

 

[SexySteph]

What point are you trying to prove? In the scenario you presented, the result of getting that offline 2000 token tip is EXACTLY THE SAME as if you had gotten an extra 2000 tokens while online during any of those other shifts.

But the difference is total tip amount, basically. Often times girls count all tips towards goal. So if someone tips 500 tkns for a video set and she has 1000 tkns left till shower show, it'll become 500 left till shower show and then she'll likely only hit her regular goal of 2500 tkns or w/e.

Now if she gets it as an offline tip she won't deduct it from the countdown and therefore it will increase her overall earnings and therefore her tokens/hour and in turn her camscore. So instead of making her regular 2500 tkns that day, that tip won't count for the countdown/goal so she'll make her regular goal (hopefully) + 500. Now this is essentially all down to the models decision of counting purchases for countdowns but that's why offline tips tend to make a different for some girls. (But not all.)