Cam model supporting politicians

[sikayoujo]

I don't know about anyone else, but supporting a politician is a sex worker seems like a very risky move. The only ones I've seen overtly support politicians have been Trump supporting models, and before the election they were making good tips. They don't seem to be doing as well afterwards - but I'm saying that after some very short observation.

I've seen a lot of models support a political stance, and that seems a lot less risky than supporting a politician. And I'm saying that regardless of who it is, but we're all clear on the problem of a sex worker supporting trump. you might be thinking that you don't understand why a sex worker would support biden, but Trump was trying to be a dictator, whereas Biden is trying to be a president. Of course, we still have our own going issues with the fashion that we already have in our country, but there's a difference between the light fashion that we have now in the full blown fascism we were heading to under dictator trump.

supporting what was almost a completely fascist dictator and a whole new regime of our time doesn't really seem like the wise thing to do. Especially after that would be dictator lost. But no matter what politician you support, there's always going to be the pros of the people who also support that politician having money, and the cons of constantly getting spammed and trolled by people who hate that politician. I don't see people get slammed for their stances as much as I see them get shamed for supporting specific people.

I'm not crazy about Joe Biden come all harris, but if I thought other Joe Biden come out here supporters had money, I probably would have put their stuff in my background for more tips at the cost of getting shit on by Trump supporters. then again, I don't know if I'll be able to say that for too much longer with this GameStop/ AMC stock shenanigans, Biden/ Kamala supporters probably got money now!

With that being said, where are y'all sitting about this issue? It doesn't necessarily have to be about Joe Biden or Donald trump. Where do you sit on camming models supporting specific politicians, or expressing their general political views without a specific politician?​

 

[bbbbadddd]

Best to just avoid anything that alienates or polarizes people as far as your business goes no matter what it is. You're potentially cutting out somewhere ~1/3 - 1/2 of your customers. And the negative reaction to either side will always be much stronger than the positive. Not worth it.

Plenty of other places for that if you have some strong feelings one way or another.

Personally, I hate politics being injected into everything. The last thing that I want to hear about when I come to sites like these.

 

[mike_aussie]

On twitter I don't bother following models that spam political tweets and RTs. It clogs up my NSFW timeline with stuff I don't want to read. In particular in alienates non-Americans like myself who aren't interested in American politics. Save that for your personal SFW account.

 

[Sxmxr]

I don't know about anyone else, but supporting a politician is a sex worker seems like a very risky move. The only ones I've seen overtly support politicians have been Trump supporting models, and before the election they were making good tips. They don't seem to be doing as well afterwards - but I'm saying that after some very short observation.

I've seen a lot of models support a political stance, and that seems a lot less risky than supporting a politician. And I'm saying that regardless of who it is, but we're all clear on the problem of a sex worker supporting trump. you might be thinking that you don't understand why a sex worker would support biden, but Trump was trying to be a dictator, whereas Biden is trying to be a president. Of course, we still have our own going issues with the fashion that we already have in our country, but there's a difference between the light fashion that we have now in the full blown fascism we were heading to under dictator trump.

supporting what was almost a completely fascist dictator and a whole new regime of our time doesn't really seem like the wise thing to do. Especially after that would be dictator lost. But no matter what politician you support, there's always going to be the pros of the people who also support that politician having money, and the cons of constantly getting spammed and trolled by people who hate that politician. I don't see people get slammed for their stances as much as I see them get shamed for supporting specific people.

I'm not crazy about Joe Biden come all harris, but if I thought other Joe Biden come out here supporters had money, I probably would have put their stuff in my background for more tips at the cost of getting shit on by Trump supporters. then again, I don't know if I'll be able to say that for too much longer with this GameStop/ AMC stock shenanigans, Biden/ Kamala supporters probably got money now!

With that being said, where are y'all sitting about this issue? It doesn't necessarily have to be about Joe Biden or Donald trump. Where do you sit on camming models supporting specific politicians, or expressing their general political views without a specific politician?​

Huh? This is too political for me. You’re contradicting yourself but ok

 

[Nigerian Prince]

I don't think for the most part people really care about politics when they are watching cam models. Also this tactic only works for some conservatives because they have a self-imposed idea where criticism of their views translate to an attack on their way of life and how they are now the oppressed. So when they see a model wearing a MAGA hat to them it's like the model is a hero standing up for them, and you can build an audience like that. It 's the reasons many conservatives do well on Twitter, despite how much they complain about the platform trying to silence them.

Also this is only semi-related, but I think we throw words and labels around too much. Trump really wasn't a fascist and he is certainly not the worst president ever despite how much people want to label him that. It's like we've all forgotten all the horrible presidents of the past, I mean Bush hasn't been out of office for that long. The way we talk about Trump also masks the fact that most of the problems that were an issue under his presidency have been issues long before he took office. Ultimately Trump will be remembered for all the things he failed to accomplish, his inaction more than his actions, and all the stupid things he said on Twitter.

 

[sikayoujo]

Best to just avoid anything that alienates or polarizes people as far as your business goes no matter what it is. You're potentially cutting out somewhere ~1/3 - 1/2 of your customers. And the negative reaction to either side will always be much stronger than the positive. Not worth it.

Plenty of other places for that if you have some strong feelings one way or another.

Personally, I hate politics being injected into everything. The last thing that I want to hear about when I come to sites like these.

Meanwhile, the rest of us understand that politics affects every aspect of our lives including our jobs, and politics definitely affects sex worker's livelihoods on a daily basis. I get that you want escapism in your entertainment, but literally everything is political. Video games, anime, comic books, literally everything is political because politics affects what we can and can't get.

they're clearly a lot of people who don't care about alienation. And who are you to say that the cons outweigh the pros? Have you seen the direct effects of that to be able to prove it? I can't say I've been observing the subject for a long time, but as I mentioned in my original post I've seen Trump supporting models get hella tipped by Trump supporters, but now they're not doing well after the election. but that could be subjective. A lot of people aren't doing well this time of year because people have re-prioritized their spending. And we're not done with the holidays because Valentine's day is still up and around the corner.

At the same time, I acknowledge that for all the Trump supporters that were out and about before, especially in november, there have become sharp decreases, and when you polarize and marginalize your audience based on a politician there's no reason why that wouldn't have a direct effect on your tips from the people who also supported that politician. this is why I feel like it's better to support a stance than it is to support a person. People come and go but stances remain. Not to say that if you support the stance of fascism under any capacity that will work out well for you, either.

 

[sikayoujo]

On twitter I don't bother following models that spam political tweets and RTs. It clogs up my NSFW timeline with stuff I don't want to read. In particular in alienates non-Americans like myself who aren't interested in American politics. Save that for your personal SFW account.

Why are you only interested in American models?

 

[sikayoujo]

Huh? This is too political for me. You’re contradicting yourself but ok

Why comment when you didn't bother reading what I said? Please stop spamming.

 

[AmberCutie]

I was very vocally "Anti-Trump" on my Twitter through parts of 2020. I did not care in the least if I lost Trump supporters, because I don't want shitty/stupid people like that around anyway.

 

[sikayoujo]

I don't think for the most part people really care about politics when they are watching cam models. Also this tactic only works for some conservatives because they have a self-imposed idea where criticism of their views translate to an attack on their way of life and how they are now the oppressed. So when they see a model wearing a MAGA hat to them it's like the model is a hero standing up for them, and you can build an audience like that. It 's the reasons many conservatives do well on Twitter, despite how much they complain about the platform trying to silence them.

Yeah, but that's the double edged sword I'm seeing. Now that the elections are over it's been deemed a theme that's now played out. That's my main thing about supporting politicains. When that person leaves it's over. Now what? You spent all that time marketing off of supporting that person and that's what everyone knows you for, and now it's over.

 

[sikayoujo]

I was very vocally "Anti-Trump" on my Twitter through parts of 2020. I did not care in the least if I lost Trump supporters, because I don't want shitty/stupid people like that around anyway.

Being anti-someone while not directly being pro-someone is also a different take. I find there's more damage in who someone supporters rather than who someone is against, if they also don't say too much about who they support.

But, in terms of people having agency over their viewers, yeah. If you know what kind of community you want to shape around yourself, you've pretty much made all your choices and you accept what comes with that. I feel like a lot of models bit off more than they could chew when it came to supporting Trump, though. As far I've seen their rooms be about half of what they were.

 

[Smoothie]

I support every model’s right to support (or condemn for that matter) anything they want, political or otherwise.

However, as a customer it’s not my favorite thing to encounter. It mentally takes me away from trying to have fun.

Just my preference, that’s all.

 

[sikayoujo]

I would also like to point out that supporting a politician is far from damnation. Reputations can be rebuilt, but we all know it's a difficult process.

It's just that the models that were supporting Trump made that their whole personality. I'm personally interested in what they're going to do now, but of course it's no skin off my nose.

 

[goldmouthbitch]

holy shit did you drink the koolaid or did you drink the koolaid.

just from a potential customer perspective i suggest keeping it to supporting biden.

if you must cry about trump at least be factual and honest about it but id just avoid it going off the cartoonish silly shit you posted here

 

[Mila_]

The chances of the segment of people who find you hot overlapping significantly with the segment that shares your political stance is quite small. So you might find a new audience that shares your political views but they are unlikely to tip you unless they also find you hot. That intersection is significantly smaller than the section of those who find you hot but hate your political views. So the only way this works in your favor is if that small intersection you won over is hardcore enough to bankroll your streams. Risky move

 

[MarieElise]

I kept politics out of it until George Flloyd, Breonna Taylor, Ahmaud Aubrey... and the list could go on forever, sadly!! I have a really strong following of Black males (like 50% - 75% or more of my fan base are either black or brown - I use C2C a lot so I know), therefor I was not about to stay quiet on that. I could not care less if it put other people off (it didn't... I made just as much money, if not more). I'm not about to stay quiet on political issues that deeply affect a large group of folks who have shown me nothing but love, kindness, and support. Especially during and after my first pregnancy when a lot of my other "regulars" dumped me, as soon as I wasn't bone skinny anymore.

That being said I tried not to go overboard about it, because I know I have the privilege of being white (in USA), and it is not my place. But the truth is that when political events upset you to the level where you are in tears every few days, it's easier and more real, just to tell your followers and fans the reasons why. This year was just too much, and I literally couldn't stay quiet about what was going on. I want people to know very clearly where I stand.

Trump fed negatively into pretty much every issue that I care about, so I don't like him, and I never want him in public office again. That being said I do agree he wasn't the worst (although he was very bad), he was more of a complete idiot that couldn't keep his mouth shut, and his emotions in check. To me he was the proverbial spoiled, out-of-touch rich kid, who was used to getting his own way in life. I don't like people like that.

ETA; I kept it mainly off my live stream, unless someone came into my room posting pro-Trump stuff. But I was vocal about my views here, on Twitter, and via PMs with regulars etc.

 

[AmberCutie]

I support every model’s right to support (or condemn for that matter) anything they want, political or otherwise.

However, as a customer it’s not my favorite thing to encounter. It mentally takes me away from trying to have fun.

Just my preference, that’s all.

I think that's probably a pretty popular mindset. And in general I've always tried to limit or abstain completely from posting political stuff. This past year was just a bit more difficult than usual for me to completely ignore and avoid it all. Now that things are moving forward I'm certainly toning it down again.

 

[AudriTwo]

I'm pretty political on twitter, and it's never been a negative. I don't really do politics on cam. I got like two regs that like to argue and disagree with me, but still purchase camshows and subscribe to my onlyfans.

I'm pretty accepting of people with opposing views. A good chunk of my IRL friends and family are/were trump supporters. Have someone very dear to me who fell down the qanon rabbit hole. They've finally broke free after the blackouts and martial law didn't happen.

Idk, I try to show people who may not agree with me empathy.

 

[Carmita Bonita]

I don't mind sharing my political views on twitter but on cam I don't because it isn't sexy, can kill the room and invite trolls so--unless they want to pay me $9.99 per minute to make time to talk about it I try to avoid it.

I know a lot of people use porn as a way to escape reality and it's been a VERY shitty reality for most people this last year. Now that the dust is settled a bit I'm trying to keep things a bit more light-hearted and sexy on social media.

 

[Danigirl]

My room is frickin switzerland. Dani has no political bias other than shut the fuck up about politics and have fun while tipping for what you like. Not going to alienate half the damn audience no matter whatever is said. Politics does not equal sexy time. Not having sexy time equals not having tokens. I'm not camming to get political or have my vagina shrivel up because of dumbasses. Keep politics and religion out of my room. I'll debate all I want on my actual pages. It doesn't belong in my cam room whatsoever. I mean, what's the point? Not going to change anyone's mind or argue about politics when their dick is on their hand. I make money when dicks go up, not down.

 

[AmberCutie]

I'll debate all I want on my actual pages. It doesn't belong in my cam room

I certainly try to stick to this, at least. I think one night toward the end of all the ballyhoo I drank a bit much and went on a bit of a rant in my room, but in general I only speak political/etc opinions on Twitter, if that. And my live chat room sides much more on the chatty social side than sexytimes side, so it just kinda fit in with whatever we had been discussing that night.

I do not operate ANY personal social media or ways to get it out of my system, so that once in a while that I spout off does just enough to let off the steam.

 

[sikayoujo]

The chances of the segment of people who find you hot overlapping significantly with the segment that shares your political stance is quite small. So you might find a new audience that shares your political views but they are unlikely to tip you unless they also find you hot. That intersection is significantly smaller than the section of those who find you hot but hate your political views. So the only way this works in your favor is if that small intersection you won over is hardcore enough to bankroll your streams. Risky move

I see what you're saying. At the same time, the models that I observe don't have anything particular going on other than supporting trump. They went from banking to tanking after all was said and done with our would be dictator, though. With what you said, I don't think people believed that they were hot. They were just funding people that made them feel represented and justified.

We both definitely agree it's risky.

 

[sikayoujo]

I kept politics out of it until George Flloyd, Breonna Taylor, Ahmaud Aubrey... and the list could go on forever, sadly!! I have a really strong following of Black males (like 50% - 75% or more of my fan base are either black or brown - I use C2C a lot so I know), therefor I was not about to stay quiet on that. I could not care less if it put other people off (it didn't... I made just as much money, if not more). I'm not about to stay quiet on political issues that deeply affect a large group of folks who have shown me nothing but love, kindness, and support. Especially during and after my first pregnancy when a lot of my other "regulars" dumped me, as soon as I wasn't bone skinny anymore.

That being said I tried not to go overboard about it, because I know I have the privilege of being white (in USA), and it is not my place. But the truth is that when political events upset you to the level where you are in tears every few days, it's easier and more real, just to tell your followers and fans the reasons why. This year was just too much, and I literally couldn't stay quiet about what was going on. I want people to know very clearly where I stand.

Trump fed negatively into pretty much every issue that I care about, so I don't like him, and I never want him in public office again. That being said I do agree he wasn't the worst (although he was very bad), he was more of a complete idiot that couldn't keep his mouth shut, and his emotions in check. To me he was the proverbial spoiled, out-of-touch rich kid, who was used to getting his own way in life. I don't like people like that.

ETA; I kept it mainly off my live stream, unless someone came into my room posting pro-Trump stuff. But I was vocal about my views here, on Twitter, and via PMs with regulars etc.

I feel that. There are a lot of people out here using their platform for what they feel is right, and you should definitely use your privilege for good.

and you said something I didn't really consider. A lot of people have already lost audience members and regulars due to other changes in their life, anyway. From a worker's perspective, you already know people come and go, so you may as well say whatever you want.

Even if you support a fascist dictator people will eventually forget about it. But probably not soon enough from the model's perspective. now that Trump is gone, a lot of the Trump supporters have dried up and have gone back into hiding, and now the anti-trump spammers remain.

 

[sikayoujo]

I'm pretty political on twitter, and it's never been a negative. I don't really do politics on cam. I got like two regs that like to argue and disagree with me, but still purchase camshows and subscribe to my onlyfans.

I'm pretty accepting of people with opposing views. A good chunk of my IRL friends and family are/were trump supporters. Have someone very dear to me who fell down the qanon rabbit hole. They've finally broke free after the blackouts and martial law didn't happen.

Idk, I try to show people who may not agree with me empathy.

Meh, I don't have empathy for fascism, but do you.

 

[sikayoujo]

My room is frickin switzerland. Dani has no political bias other than shut the fuck up about politics and have fun while tipping for what you like. Not going to alienate half the damn audience no matter whatever is said. Politics does not equal sexy time. Not having sexy time equals not having tokens. I'm not camming to get political or have my vagina shrivel up because of dumbasses. Keep politics and religion out of my room. I'll debate all I want on my actual pages. It doesn't belong in my cam room whatsoever. I mean, what's the point? Not going to change anyone's mind or argue about politics when their dick is on their hand. I make money when dicks go up, not down.

Ma'am, this is a Gamestop.

 

[Danigirl]

Ma'am, this is a Gamestop.

No idea what you mean with that.

 

[MarieElise]

and you said something I didn't really consider. A lot of people have already lost audience members and regulars due to other changes in their life, anyway. From a worker's perspective, you already know people come and go, so you may as well say whatever you want.

Exactly. From my perspective, I've been doing this 6 years now, and my whole brand is based upon me being as real as I can possibly be. LOADS of people find me abrasive, intimidating whatever, and I understand that. But even more people respect it, because they know exactly where they stand with me, and they know very frankly that I don't like and accept every single guy who is willing to pay. I get a lot of complaints about being a bitch, not being "nice" haha, which I understand. But I get none about being fake, and that is what I pride myself on. Not that I've never faked one, or told a white lie, I love acting and roleplay... however, I want people to know who I am as a whole person, positive and negative, and I base my brand off of that.

The way I have always thought of it, and that works for me, is that in US culture we are obsessed with reality shows and voyeurism. Whether it be sexual voyeurism, or just simply a voyeuristic curiosity of looking at other people's lifestyles, routines, and attitudes. Most of my regulars are US, but not all. Therefore I've always consciously tried to tap into that entertainment trend. I see my job as sexual but also entertainment.

I consciously try to attract people who are not apathetic, who are passionate, who I can try and have a real connection of some sort with. Because that is what I genuinely find attractive.

That being said this evolved for me over years, on the sites I use. As a baby cam model I would not go out blazing and being too overtly political, like everyone said there are strong escape and entertainment elements camming. So I think it has to be balanced off with other aspects of who you are, what makes you laugh, things you like too. If their (any given model's) show and brand is based mainly and purely on a single ideology, then yeah... that's gonna get boring and dry up real quick. Whether it be a correct and positive ideology, or a shitty, negative one, as I believe the examples you are talking of are (shitty and negative).

Maybe I just got lucky, but I have had a really positive experience being this way, and showing that more abrasive, gritty and real side to my personality. And as an added benefit it totally turns off the types of guys who I don't find attractive anyway, so win, win But if you get too political in live streams it is definitely going to attract trolls and people who want to just start shit, stir the pot, spend no money, and try to get their little sick cheap kicks, trying to set you (or any one of us) off emotionally. So it's a balance like I was saying.

 

[sikayoujo]

Exactly. From my perspective, I've been doing this 6 years now, and my whole brand is based upon me being as real as I can possibly be. LOADS of people find me abrasive, intimidating whatever, and I understand that. But even more people respect it, because they know exactly where they stand with me, and they know very frankly that I don't like and accept every single guy who is willing to pay. I get a lot of complaints about being a bitch, not being "nice" haha, which I understand. But I get none about being fake, and that is what I pride myself on. Not that I've never faked one, or told a white lie, I love acting and roleplay... however, I want people to know who I am as a whole person, positive and negative, and I base my brand off of that.

The way I have always thought of it, and that works for me, is that in US culture we are obsessed with reality shows and voyeurism. Whether it be sexual voyeurism, or just simply a voyeuristic curiosity of looking at other people's lifestyles, routines, and attitudes. Most of my regulars are US, but not all. Therefore I've always consciously tried to tap into that entertainment trend. I see my job as sexual but also entertainment.

I consciously try to attract people who are not apathetic, who are passionate, who I can try and have a real connection of some sort with. Because that is what I genuinely find attractive.

That being said this evolved for me over years, on the sites I use. As a baby cam model I would not go out blazing and being too overtly political, like everyone said there are strong escape and entertainment elements camming. So I think it has to be balanced off with other aspects of who you are, what makes you laugh, things you like too. If their (any given model's) show and brand is based mainly and purely on a single ideology, then yeah... that's gonna get boring and dry up real quick. Whether it be a correct and positive ideology, or a shitty, negative one, as I believe the examples you are talking of are (shitty and negative).

Maybe I just got lucky, but I have had a really positive experience being this way, and showing that more abrasive, gritty and real side to my personality. And as an added benefit it totally turns off the types of guys who I don't find attractive anyway, so win, win But if you get too political in live streams it is definitely going to attract trolls and people who want to just start shit, stir the pot, spend no money, and try to get their little sick cheap kicks, trying to set you (or any one of us) off emotionally. So it's a balance like I was saying.

I understand everything you said. You accept what your job and your role is, and you govern it however you please with the understanding of how people and audiences work. you don't want to be out of a job over politics and the stance, but you understand how those things affect you, and you know what kind of community you want to shape around you with your audience. I totally get all of that.

But this is why I brought this discussion to the table in the first place. What is up with these models that insist on being so marginalized, when the general consensus is that it's really not the best thing to do?

I understand that it's better for me to say black lives matter than it is to say I support Joe Biden and Kamala Harris. I don't want people in my audience that don't believe black lives matter. You can fucking bounce. But putting all your chips in on people is risky for a lot of reasons, mostly because people are fickle and people can change their ways, and there has to be an acknowledgment that no matter how much you like a politician you're not going to agree with everything that they do. when they do something that fucks you up, that personality that you built around supporting them in that marketing that you did as a supporter of them gets a really big obvious crack in it. then the people that were drawn to you because you support that politician that just so happened to be more die-hard than you are about said politician also get marginalized.

 

[Pureangel]

My room is frickin switzerland. Dani has no political bias other than shut the fuck up about politics and have fun while tipping for what you like. Not going to alienate half the damn audience no matter whatever is said. Politics does not equal sexy time. Not having sexy time equals not having tokens. I'm not camming to get political or have my vagina shrivel up because of dumbasses. Keep politics and religion out of my room. I'll debate all I want on my actual pages. It doesn't belong in my cam room whatsoever. I mean, what's the point? Not going to change anyone's mind or argue about politics when their dick is on their hand. I make money when dicks go up, not down.

Yes, yes yes! Do what ya gotta do to make the money! I talked briefly 1 day to a member who brought up politics, and it drove everyone out, and I logged out broke.

 

[AmberCutie]

I've been doing this 6 years now, and my whole brand is based upon me being as real as I can possibly be.

Exactly, and I've drawn up a large handful of people that wouldn't still be around if we didn't have similar ideals of how the world should be. I did have to nix out one bad apple in the mess of the last 6 months, but ultimately it was just waiting for the other shoe to drop with him anyway as I knew he didn't share the same thoughts most of us did about things.

I consciously try to attract people who are not apathetic, who are passionate, who I can try and have a real connection of some sort with. Because that is what I genuinely find attractive.

THIS so hard, I've been at this over 11 years... I've rounded up people who are on the proper side of things, so stating some anti-Trump and progressive ideals in my Twitter and once in a great while in my live cam room was just fine for me. I won't make it a habit to bring up controversial points, but if I do, I know I'm in good company.