Blocking your region can be hacked?

[VixxenRose]

Okay so. This is my first post here ever. Bear with me. So yesterday, I was having a few drinks with a small group of friends, and somehow camming came up. One of my friends wants to start camming, and she had some questions. NOW, pretty much everyone in the room knows I cam, but they don't know my cam name or anything. So couple of drink later, one of my guy friends basically told me that he's seen a video of me a while ago, and that it wasn't bad yada yada...I was concerned: A. because how does he know my cam name? B. I blocked my area from being viewed. C. HOW did he get a video of mine for free? Either way, I was kind of like, yeah right you're just kidding around. He proceeds to call me by my cam name, VixxenRose. I sat there like...oh cool. Okay. Keep in mind I have never showed anyone my name or ANYTHING. he told me that someone at a party told him that there's a video of me going around the internet a while back, and so he decided to check it out. He told me he went onto my profile, and had a hard time because I blocked our area, but he knows proxy so he could get around it. And access all my photo sets on my profile. AND that there is a video of me going around, BUT I DIDN'T film it. Someone obviously was filming from their computer while I was doing a show, and then put it online. Sweet, okay whatever. My question is, has anyone else had an experience like this? I'm not too concerned, as doing this cam stuff kinda already puts us in this position. Sorry for the longish rant....but I had to vent it out somewhere. GAHHHHH

 

[Crumb]

it happens
I also sometimes use a Virtural Private Network or VPN to check out Canadian gals that geo block my region
I'll also add that I don't use a VPN often because it creates wicked lag.

but the cappers and guys who upload to the internet, are a completely different sort of person than the guys (like me) who are just curious about who's blocking us

 

[CharlotteLace]

Yeah, it's super easy to get around geo-blocking by using a VPN- it essentially makes your IP look like it's from a different state or country. I'm not sure how he could access your galleries if they're password protected, though. That might be a bluff, unless somebody bought the pictures and posted them somewhere else.

AND that there is a video of me going around, BUT I DIDN'T film it. Someone obviously was filming from their computer while I was doing a show, and then put it online.

Honestly, I think it's best to assume that somebody is capping your shows at all times. It makes you that much more careful not to reveal your location or real name. Having screencaps on other sites isn't necessarily a bad thing- many girls see it as free advertising. Lots of girls get capped, it's just a common drawback to the job. Same as somebody you know finding your videos.

Depending on where your videos are hosted, you can have MFC send a DMCA to the website to take down your caps. However, some sites just ignore DMCAs, or use it as justification for posting more caps of your stream. To me it, it doesn't seem worth it to bother, but that's just me. It's good you're not super concerned though- no use losing sleep over it, ya know?

 

[Aurora]

I wouldn't call that being "hacked" as the block is still functioning as intended, it's just been circumvented.
This is why I don't bother with state blocks. It's too easy to get around, and it makes my location more obvious.

 

[Just Me]

I wouldn't call that being "hacked" as the block is still functioning as intended, it's just been circumvented.
This is why I don't bother with state blocks. It's too easy to get around, and it makes my location more obvious.

This brings up a good point that I am guessing not many have thought about. Normally blocking your region can be a good thing. Casual people from your area are not going to run across you camming unless they are using a proxy or vpn but if they hang out in the lounge with people linking models in the room and someone links a model and they can't access the link they now know their area is being blocked by a particular model. Now, they most likely know which state or country the model is camming from.

As to the OP, none of what you mention is really hacking. Many people use VPN and proxies for a whole host of reasons and it might have just been blind luck that your friend ran across your video on another site. You have to assume that all your interactions while you are on cam are being recorded. There is absolutely nothing that can be done to prevent this from happening. If someone can see it on their computer screen there are ways to record or capture it.

 

[eclipse76]

As to the OP, none of what you mention is really hacking. Many people use VPN and proxies for a whole host of reasons and it might have just been blind luck that your friend ran across your video on another site. You have to assume that all your interactions while you are on cam are being recorded. There is absolutely nothing that can be done to prevent this from happening. If someone can see it on their computer screen there are ways to record or capture it.

Me thinks OP's friend has searched for it. I don't believe in that "blind luck" at all.

 

[yossarian]

My advice is to kick him in the balls next time you see him, because that's basically all you can do.

 

[Sevrin]

As to the OP, none of what you mention is really hacking. Many people use VPN and proxies for a whole host of reasons and it might have just been blind luck that your friend ran across your video on another site. You have to assume that all your interactions while you are on cam are being recorded. There is absolutely nothing that can be done to prevent this from happening. If someone can see it on their computer screen there are ways to record or capture it.

Me thinks OP's friend has searched for it. I don't believe in that "blind luck" at all.

Why not? Unless your friends are gay and skip girl porn, chances off they'll come across you eventually. If he's a guy into cam girls, which he seems to admit to being, who visits tube sites, which is every guy, there are lots of cam girl videos posted. I don't know about anyone else, but I tend to scan through those pretty quickly before I come across something that interests me. If I came across one featuring someone I recognized from RL, that would certainly catch my attention.

Anyway, if he thought the person in question would have a problem with his knowing, he would have kept his mouth shut. You're better off knowing that people you didn't think could see you can.

Reality Check

 

[SexySteph]

As to the OP, none of what you mention is really hacking. Many people use VPN and proxies for a whole host of reasons and it might have just been blind luck that your friend ran across your video on another site. You have to assume that all your interactions while you are on cam are being recorded. There is absolutely nothing that can be done to prevent this from happening. If someone can see it on their computer screen there are ways to record or capture it.

Me thinks OP's friend has searched for it. I don't believe in that "blind luck" at all.

Why not? Unless your friends are gay and skip girl porn, chances off they'll come across you eventually. If he's a guy into cam girls, which he seems to admit to being, who visits tube sites, which is every guy, there are lots of cam girl videos posted. I don't know about anyone else, but I tend to scan through those pretty quickly before I come across something that interests me. If I came across one featuring someone I recognized from RL, that would certainly catch my attention.

Anyway, if he thought the person in question would have a problem with his knowing, he would have kept his mouth shut. You're better off knowing that people you didn't think could see you can.

Reality Check

I really think eclipse is probably right though. While we'll all likely be found out one way or another, it wouldn't surprise me if he was actively looking for her. I've searched tube sites for content of me and other girls I know and very rarely have found anything. OP is an 1100 CS model, which makes it even less likely that she'd be on a tube site, I wasn't capped for the first time till I had 3000 CS.

I'm not saying this couldn't have happened otherwise, but I wouldn't be surprised if he's scoped her out on purpose.

 

[UncleThursday]

VPNs get around geoblocking very easy. put your IP to Russia or something and then you can get around the geoblocking of your area. It's not hard, but it's not always worth it with the lag and such. Plus some VPNs aren't free.

It's not a hack. It's a circumvention, but not a hack.

As for videos or pics of you online... It's going to happen. There's no stopping it. It can be fought, but often it makes the cappers more adamant about capping you. So it's a lose-lose situation for models who try to fight it frequently.

If the possibility of someone you know finding you naked online or videos of you get spread around is too much for you, then sorry to say, camming is not the job for you. No saying it to be mean, but there are certain realities when it comes to putting yourself out there for the world to see. And if those realities aren't what you want for yourself, then camming is simply not a job you want to do. Also, as the thread linked states, once something is online, it is there forever. So even years down the line, it's possible someone might find the vids/pics/whatever of you.

It's even gotten to the point that some employers want access to potential applicant's Facebook profiles and such to make sure they are something they want. Which is bullshit, IMO, but it's happening more frequently. They'll do massive searches just to find anything that they can use to not hire people. So, for everyone, if you don't want anything you might find potentially embarrassing about you in the future to be found online, make sure it never gets online in any way shape or form.

 

[Koolguy321]

With the stuff about the videos/recordings, you should maybe check out my post here - https://www.ambercutie.com/forums/viewt ... 30#p420270

I wouldn't say DMCA requests are a waste of time, after all its only a email you are sending to MFC containing links to the videos, it's hardly going to take up a lot of your time.
Remember to never send one yourself, as they require personal information.

 

[Sevrin]

By the way, MFC doesn't exactly go out of their way to send out those DMCA notices.

You can do a search on Chilling Effects to see how listings MFC has for seeking to remove listings from Google searches. It's not many. There are far more that have been filed by models themselves.

 

[Shaun__]

By the way, MFC doesn't exactly go out of their way to send out those DMCA notices.

You can do a search on Chilling Effects to see how listings MFC has for seeking to remove listings from Google searches. It's not many. There are far more that have been filed by models themselves.

MFC probably likes the free advertising, they built their business on converting freeloaders into paying members.

 

[Koolguy321]

By the way, MFC doesn't exactly go out of their way to send out those DMCA notices.

You can do a search on Chilling Effects to see how listings MFC has for seeking to remove listings from Google searches. It's not many. There are far more that have been filed by models themselves.

I've sent links to MFC and gotten a model to, and so far all the recordings that have been sent have been removed.
Some may not be down until the next day or two, it just depends on the website of course.

I dont think MFC does anything to stop people from finding the recordings, like getting google to remove listings from search results,
they seem to just send out DMCA's whenever a model asks them to and that's it.

 

[yossarian]

By the way, MFC doesn't exactly go out of their way to send out those DMCA notices.

You can do a search on Chilling Effects to see how listings MFC has for seeking to remove listings from Google searches. It's not many. There are far more that have been filed by models themselves.

I've sent links to MFC and gotten a model to, and so far all the recordings that have been sent have been removed.
Some may not be down until the next day or two, it just depends on the website of course.

I dont think MFC does anything to stop people from finding the recordings, like getting google to remove listings from search results,
they seem to just send out DMCA's whenever a model asks them to and that's it.

Well, at some point you have to calculate cost (i.e. man-hours) vs. how much money they're losing from the recordings being out there. As some have said, it's mostly free advertising for MFC--they're not really losing anything from people posting shows that have already happened and been tipped for--so they're likely only doing it to keep the models happy.

 

[Koolguy321]

Well, at some point you have to calculate cost (i.e. man-hours) vs. how much money they're losing from the recordings being out there. As some have said, it's mostly free advertising for MFC--they're not really losing anything from people posting shows that have already happened and been tipped for--so they're likely only doing it to keep the models happy.

Yes i agree, although i no very little about MFC, i get the impression that they do not actively look for any recordings of models or try to get links removed.

If a model asks them, then they will only do something, if not then they dont seem to care.

 

[Koolguy321]

A lot of models get recorded, i would say nearly all recordings are of models doing a show in public chat, as most recorders will not spend the money going into group or PVT.

If you are making videos for sale, you can almost be guaranteed that some day they will end up on a popular tube site and/or on some lesser known video sites :/
It is basically impossible to send someone a video without the risk of them of being able to share it.
Even if you only give them a link for streaming the video rather than downloading it, they can still technically download it and of course just screen record it.

The MFC galleries don't let you right click on the images anymore, but give me 5 seconds and i will have that image, not a screenshot, the actual image.

I think one of the most popular/easiest ways people can find out that you are a cam model, is by making and selling videos, that is why i don't encourage it, or ask a model to make videos.

There is some models who don't care about someone finding out that they are a cam model, because they are a full time cam model and there job is being a cam model.
Rather than having a job and using camming as a way to make extra money.

I think it is always best regardless to keep things separate, separate twitter, instagram, skype, emails etc, unless you eventually trust a member with your personal ones.

I was on facebook trying to get in contact with someone who used to cam on MFC, and i imported my skype contacts, and found a personal profile for a different model, even though her skype was her model name and model email, she must of joined facebook or skype with the same email or something, of course i was quick to tell her about it.


** i would hate someday for someone to walk up to a model i know/close to, and be like " hey babe, i saw you do cum show last night" or "hey i have a video of you sucking a dude's dick" ** etc.

I've heard stuff also about people posting the videos and stuff onto models' personal facebook pages and sending them to their friends and family on facebook :/

 

[Sevrin]

I was on facebook trying to get in contact with someone who used to cam on MFC, and i imported my skype contacts, and found a personal profile for a different model, even though her skype was her model name and model email, she must of joined facebook with the same email or something, of course i was quick to tell her about it.

Importing email address can be interesting. I did that when I first created a Skype account, and found someone at work had used their work email account to create the Skype handle "sexy****69".

:lol:

 

[LilyMarie]

A lot of models get recorded, i would say nearly all recordings are of models doing a show in public chat, as most recorders will not spend the money going into group or PVT.

If you are making videos for sale, you can almost be guaranteed that some day they will end up on a popular tube site and/or on some lesser known video sites :/

I'd just like to correct this real quick... From the experience I've made over the years, in general groups and (hacked) privates are much more likely to show up on a capping site than videos that models sell.

 

[Zoomer]

He knew you cammed?

I doubt it's a massive stretch for him to then check out some of the larger/well known sites and forums, realise there is some form of geo blocking, and circumvent the IP issue.
You'll probably cam at a time he's online, so chances are massively increased - and then it's a simple game of looking. So most likely he searched you out...
If you'd ever mentioned the site, then I'm sure it's a certainty he found you.

The chances of stumbling across you is exceedingly small compared to having a little knowledge and looking (in other words, saying he's lying - he searched you out).

If you're not really worried or bothered that he's seen your shows, then I wouldn't worry about it as there's not much you can do. Guess it depends how good friends you are.

 

[LaceyRoyce]

Well, at some point you have to calculate cost (i.e. man-hours) vs. how much money they're losing from the recordings being out there. As some have said, it's mostly free advertising for MFC--they're not really losing anything from people posting shows that have already happened and been tipped for--so they're likely only doing it to keep the models happy.

Yes i agree, although i no very little about MFC, i get the impression that they do not actively look for any recordings of models or try to get links removed.

If a model asks them, then they will only do something, if not then they dont seem to care.

Actually, I recently had a bunch of my mediafire links taken down because MFC filed DCMA notices against me! After contacting their legal team, I found out they were actively seeking with 'bots' on the web tags that included MFC and certain file sharing sites like mediafire. The laywer made out it was an automated system that was seeking these things.

 

[Koolguy321]

Actually, I recently had a bunch of my mediafire links taken down because MFC filed DCMA notices against me! After contacting their legal team, I found out they were actively seeking with 'bots' on the web tags that included MFC and certain file sharing sites like mediafire. The laywer made out it was an automated system that was seeking these things.

Oh i knew that such bots existed, didnt realize MFC actively uses them, thanks for the info :thumbleft: