Ashley Madison hack

[JoleneBrody]

... Wtf

 

[Jesse0328]

I'm confused.

 

[Azhrarn]

... Wtf

Everything that GenXoxo has been saying comes out of the politically correct movement. And the fact that she's not even aware of it just makes it even more disturbing, because it shows how mainstream this nonsense has become. The things she says might sound plausible, in an ivory tower sort of way, but once you get into the real world you realize they're not plausible at all.

If I walk into a room filled with a dozen woman and I choose to spend the majority of my evening chatting with just one woman, does it really matter what I say as I compliment? The truth is, I don't even have to give her a compliment at all. The time and attention I give her says everything that needs to be said. If I choose to add, "btw, I really love your perfume," it's completely superfluous.

Now tell me that isn't comparative. And it works exactly the same on MFC, with regards to which chat rooms members choose to spend their time in.

 

[Lelo1]

I think the real shame is this leak has put people's life in jeopardy. Some countries being gay is grounds to be killed. Same thing for cheating. I can only hope there is a silver lining. And this some how leads to better protection of people's private information.

 

[Lelo1]

Apparently kids are pulling lists by zip code. Which is resulting in gossip, bulling, extra. :\

 

[Gen]

Claiming I'm just ~brainwashed by the PC movement~ is, again, really condescending. Not everyone who has a different viewpoint than you is a sheep/follower/etc. But it is quite convenient to dismiss opposing viewpoints with those claims, I guess.

Not even sure what your point is anymore, but I will say you're probably one of the more effective trolls we've had of late, so kudos for that. A fedora tip to you, sir.

 

[Jillybean]

You're making false comparisons. I can have an omelette for breakfast, pizza for lunch, pasta for dinner. No one cares. I can't however date 3 girls in one day, or even compliment 3 women in one workplace without getting into a whole lot of trouble.

As I said before, beauty is subjective. If I compliment one woman, even if it's not a comparative compliment, it's still understood that I am comparing the woman I complimented with other women. It's unavoidable. If I choose to speak to one woman, to give her my time and attention, I'm simultaneously not giving my time and attention (and compliments) to other women.

To make this more immediate, you can't have multiple favorite cam girls on MFC. You can browse and lurk in multiple rooms sure but once a cam girl is accustomed to your time and attention, it's very very hard for her to accept you spending significant time and tokens in another cam girls room. See how far you get if you try to explain to a cam girl that your giving tokens and attention to some other cam girl isn't comparative.

I'm pretty sure the reason why you're not dating 3 women tonight isn't because society will harass you with their awful PC culture.

 

[fandango]

Everything that GenXoxo has been saying comes out of the politically correct movement. And the fact that she's not even aware of it just makes it even more disturbing, because it shows how mainstream this nonsense has become. The things she says might sound plausible, in an ivory tower sort of way, but once you get into the real world you realize they're not plausible at all.

If I walk into a room filled with a dozen woman and I choose to spend the majority of my evening chatting with just one woman, does it really matter what I say as I compliment? The truth is, I don't even have to give her a compliment at all. The time and attention I give her says everything that needs to be said. If I choose to add, "btw, I really love your perfume," it's completely superfluous.

Now tell me that isn't comparative. And it works exactly the same on MFC, with regards to which chat rooms members choose to spend their time in.

Why have you taken such a minor point and gone on such a huge angry ramble?

Here are 2 compliments

1. Hi Mary you look hot
2. Hi Mary you look hot, so much hotter then Jane over there.

See the difference, that is all. You dont need some massive waffle to explain whatever point you think you are making.

 

[SNATCH]

I personally do not feel sorry for any of these people. Karma is a bitch. I know people cheat everyday. Regardless of the reason someone cheats - esp when married, I do not think it's okay, or that anything makes it okay. Yeah, sure I have heard/seen situations, where yes, you can UNDERSTAND WHY someone cheated, but that still does not make it okay. && if you're married, && cheating, that's even worse. I know that a lot of people's email addresses have shown up, but also they didn't have an email verification/confirmation, so you could put anyones email in there, && it would come out in the leak.

Now, I'm not saying that people should have their info exposed because of this, because I don't really agree with that, but I simply don't have any empathy or sympathy for the people that PAID to cheat on their spouses. I don't think they should expect privacy. It's the internet. I LIKE my privacy, but I also don't EXPECT it, because well... It's the internet. && also, government. Nothing is private really, ever. && to hear of men killing themselves, because they'd rather kill themselves, than deal with the consequences of their actions... WTF. Lame as shit. More like man the fuck up [I say this, for women too, like own the fuck up] && pay for the consequences of your actions... Something we are all generally taught as a kid, is that every action has an equal && opposite reaction, && for everything you do, there will always be consequences.

 

[Guy]

I personally do not feel sorry for any of these people. Karma is a bitch. I know people cheat everyday. Regardless of the reason someone cheats - esp when married, I do not think it's okay, or that anything makes it okay. Yeah, sure I have heard/seen situations, where yes, you can UNDERSTAND WHY someone cheated, but that still does not make it okay. && if you're married, && cheating, that's even worse. I know that a lot of people's email addresses have shown up, but also they didn't have an email verification/confirmation, so you could put anyones email in there, && it would come out in the leak.

Now, I'm not saying that people should have their info exposed because of this, because I don't really agree with that, but I simply don't have any empathy or sympathy for the people that PAID to cheat on their spouses. I don't think they should expect privacy. It's the internet. I LIKE my privacy, but I also don't EXPECT it, because well... It's the internet. && also, government. Nothing is private really, ever. && to hear of men killing themselves, because they'd rather kill themselves, than deal with the consequences of their actions... WTF. Lame as shit. More like man the fuck up [I say this, for women too, like own the fuck up] && pay for the consequences of your actions... Something we are all generally taught as a kid, is that every action has an equal && opposite reaction, && for everything you do, there will always be consequences.

But what about their credit card numbers being exposed? Also almost all the of female profiles on Ashley Madison were fake profiles being operated by employees and machines. The leak also led to many users being fired for going on an adult website when they were at work.

 

[Teagan]

But what about their credit card numbers being exposed? Also almost all the of female profiles on Ashley Madison were fake profiles being operated by employees and machines. The leak also led to many users being fired for going on an adult website when they were at work.

Their numbers weren't exposed though. Also you really shouldn't be going to websites like this or any other not work related while at work. That's common sense. It's stealing company time you are being paid for and is theft thus a fireable offense.

 

[SaffronBurke]

Their numbers weren't exposed though. Also you really shouldn't be going to websites like this or any other not work related while at work. That's common sense. It's stealing company time you are being paid for and is theft thus a fireable offense.

That reminded me of when I saw someone on Tumblr getting pissy at a model for not tagging her promos "NSFW" because "what if I'm on Tumblr at work and my boss sees NUDES on my screen, I'll be FIRED!!!"

Yeah, fired for being on Tumblr at work, they probably will barely even care if there's a naked lady there. I've had coworkers fired for being on YouTube on their work computers. Not only is it inappropriate use of the company's property and bandwidth, but if someone hacks the website that you're on, or you visit a page with a virus, the hacker or virus could get into the company's infrastructure and obtain confidential information. Social media and adult sites are HUGE risks for companies, so they are in their right to fire someone who's visiting them at work. It's not that hard to wait till your break and check those sites on your phone.

 

[Tigerqueen]

Whether people are cheating or not, it's completely not okay to share that information with people. & people think gays are ruining marriage?! How about 90% of males

 

[MrRodry]

A piece of news related to the hack.

Pastor outed in Ashley Madison hack commits suicide

John Gibson, a 56-year-old pastor who taught at the New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary was found dead by his wife, Christi, on August 24 in their on-campus home.

Gibson had committed suicide, his family said.

“It was a moment that life doesn't prepare you for,” Christi told CNN this week. “I had to call my kids. How do you tell your kids that their dad is gone and that he took his own life?”

Less than a week before, Gibson had been one of the more than 30 million people whose names were leaked by hackers of Ashley Madison, the hookup website for people seeking extramarital affairs.

Christi said that being outed “carried such a shame” for her husband.

n a suicide note, “he talked about depression. He talked about having his name on there, and he said he was just very, very sorry,” Christi told CNN. “What we know about him is that he poured his life into other people, and he offered grace and mercy and forgiveness to everyone else, but somehow he couldn’t extend that to himself.”

Christi added that her husband was probably worried that he'd lose his job as a result of the leak.

“It wasn't so bad that we wouldn't have forgiven it, and so many people have said that to us, but for John, it carried such a shame,” she said.

The pastor, who was described as a “great” teacher, has been mourned by students and teachers at the seminary where he taught.

“As a colleague, he was known as one to express care and compassion in a tangible way both to our students and to our faculty. John was loved by the students because of his love for the ministry and for them; he was always a favorite,” Thomas Strong, a dean at the seminary, said. “Our hearts are saddened ... We are better because of John and the way God used him in our lives.”

Dr. Chuck Kelley, the seminary’s president, spoke about Gibson's death at an on-campus service on Tuesday.

“On the first day of classes, we had the unexpected death of a much loved professor, colleague and friend, Dr. John Gibson,” Kelley said. “We learned that he made some very sad and unfortunate choices in his life, and his son shared in his memorial service his death appeared to come at his own hand.”

Gibson is survived by his wife and their two adult children, Trey and Callie, Buzzfeed reports.

In July, hackers threatened to release the names and account details, including credit card information, of Ashley Madison’s members unless the website’s owner, the Toronto-based Avid Life Media, took the site down.

The hackers fulfilled its threat in mid-August. Since then, several Ashley Madison members and their families have described how the website breach has “ruined” their lives. Authorities in Toronto said last month that they're investigating two suicides that could be linked to the hack.

Speaking to CNN this week, Christi said she had a “message” for the millions of people impacted by the breach.

“These were real people with real families, real pain and real loss,” she said. But “don't underestimate the power of love. Nothing is worth the loss of a father and a husband and a friend. It just didn't merit it. It didn't merit it at all.”

 

[SoTxBob]

Thought Ya'll might like a nice lil chart for this thread....

 

[Gen]

Calgary, home of the Stampede and the slogan "it's not cheatin', it's stampeding"

Divorce lawyer blog about it, haha: http://www.fairwaydivorce.com/media/blog/helpful-hints-to-remember-when-stampeding/

 

[someclevername]

It is interesting to see that the models in this thread have little sympathy for the men who signed up on Ashley Madison and have been outed. It would be nice if every relationship could be open and every partner felt secure enough to let their spouse explore other outlets for their sexual and emotional needs but we all know that is not the norm. I believe that many spouses would consider the kind of infatuation that causes a man to drop a couple hundred dollars per month (or far more) on a model to be same sort of betrayal as seeking a hookup on Ashley Madison. Right or wrong, the aggrieved partner may feel emotionally hurt, inadequate, grossed out, etc. if they discover that their loved one is spending money and time showering compliments on a model.

I wonder how many models would be willing to give up married clientele unless they have a permission slip from the spouse?

 

[Teagan]

As said in many threads many of us do not see online jacking off as cheating. Porn is one thing, physically/emotionally cheating is quiet different. A lot of women do not mind their partners looking at porn or masturbating.

 

[Gen]

Personally I wouldn't be happy if my spouse was dropping tons of money on models. Not the same as intending to meet up with someone for an affair, but I wouldn't like it.

That said I don't think it's a models concern or, frankly, business what a members relationship is. Trying to pin your fuck ups on someone doing their job is crummy, camsites are age-controlled meaning you're an adult, it's nobody's job to monitor you and make sure you're not being an asshole the same way that when I was a bartender we didn't make people prove they weren't alcoholics.

 

[Illegallyblonde100]

it is more of a sugar daddy site, i was on it a few year back must admit though I met a few guys from it and ended up travelling all over the world lol, but agree not sure why anyone would want to hack it and the hackers are more immoral then the cheating spouses on it

 

[lovesheidi]

Meanwhile in the real world: https://www.reddit.com/r/lgbt/comments/3ebzzj/i_may_get_stoned_to_death_for_gay_sex_gay_man/

I really really hope, if the story is true, that this persons application will be processed for asylum ASAP. Regardless of being a good or bad person, nobody should die because of homosexuality. Hell, even if they come over illegally, that's a cause that will be protected by law, and rightfully so.

 

[Sevrin]

More Ashley Madison skeletons.

The women who fooled everyone by pretending to be executives at Ashley Madison’s sister websites

In May of 2010, Canadians turned on their televisions to see Amanda Lang interview Claudia Opdenkelder on CBC’s The National about an issue of grave importance: Discrimination against cougars.

In an interview at a bar, the evening newscast’s guest anchor introduced Opdenkelder as “the founder of an online dating site,” CougarLife.com, that helps older women and younger men (ahem, “cubs”) pair up. But as Lang reported — and what would soon become an international news story — there was a powerful killjoy standing in the way of cougars and cubs and their quest for intimacy. Google Inc. was banning Cougar Life’s advertisements, explaining to Lang in a statement that it does not allow “adult” dating sites (while it doesn’t ban less hookup-focused sites, like Match.com).

It was a compelling story — one undeniably made even better by the fact that the founder, Opdenkelder, was blonde, curvy, media savvy, and more than willing to go on television in a tight-fitting pencil skirt and explain why cougars like her deserve love too. Over time, Opdenkelder would give voice to that struggle in The New York Times, The Globe and Mail and this newspaper. There were many more magazine profiles of her, occasionally featuring cheesecake photos of Opdenkelder herself, and TV reports. Usually she was described as the founder or president of Cougar Life.

Too bad it wasn’t true.

A Financial Post investigation has found that Opdenkelder is one of at least three women who were hired to pose as founders, executives or board members of niche dating websites owned by Avid Life Media Inc., the parent company of the adultery website Ashley Madison.

Link to article.