Ah, Christians... such an open-minded bunch...

[mynameisbob84]

http://www.christianvoice.org.uk/?p=3358#comment-32230

And yes, I'm well aware that there ARE plenty of open-minded Christians. These ones though... not so much.

 

[SatanJonez]

Just looking at these troubling pictures is shocking. And these homosexuals want to tell us that they are not insane or have serious psychiatric problems? This is anti-social behaviour personified. They need to be steeped in the blood of Christ for salvation. God’s soldiers need to rise up now.

Dude. Seriously??

Anti-social behaviour (with or without hyphen) is behaviour that lacks consideration for others and may cause damage to the society, whether intentionally or through negligence.

Hanging out in assless chaps holding a rainbow flag telling the world you are proud of who you are is none of that. The people who are so closed minded should really take a look at their own beliefs. One of them is make believe cannibalism.

 

[mynameisbob84]

Normal people will be shocked and saddened that fellow human beings, made in the image of God, could fall so low

That line scared me. Not because it highlights how moronic and hateful and deluded the author is, but because when you have that much irony condensed into such a small sentence... I mean, has he created some sort of paradox here? Clearly, it's impossible for that much irony to be condensed into such a small space, but... it's happened. Does this have an effect on the space-time continuum? I don't know. But I am fearful that he's undone some kind of incontrivertible law of physics or something and set about the implosion of the universe :?

 

[Bocefish]

I'm in no way agreeing with what the article said or how they said it. What people do in the bedroom is nobody's business but the people in said bedroom. What irks me is all the in your face PDA shite like the below exemplifies. That kinda shite has no business being done in public with children in attendance, much less on a parade float. It would make no difference if it were a hetero couple, it's not appropriate in public with children around.

Read more... viewtopic.php?f=12&t=1791&hilit=Gay+Pride&start=30

 

[Anonymous]

I'm almost positive that is a trollsite.

 

[AllisonWilder]

I'm in no way agreeing with what the article said or how they said it. What people do in the bedroom is nobody's business but the people in said bedroom. What irks me is all the in your face PDA shite like the below exemplifies. That kinda shite has no business being done in public with children in attendance, much less on a parade float. It would make no difference if it were a hetero couple, it's not appropriate in public with children around.

Read more... viewtopic.php?f=12&t=1791&hilit=Gay+Pride&start=30

I agree with you on this. As a parent, I don't want my kid to see these types of displays until he's older and can understand that he doesn't get to go around doing this to other children (especially those kids in his daycare with really uptight parents). Sexual orientation doesn't make a difference to me and I hope it won't to him later in life. I wouldn't want him exposed to this from a heterosexual couple either.

I hope that came out right. I like gay people so much that I had a gay boyfriend through high school. :lol:

 

[IsabelleL]

Okay, but that's true of Mardi Gras. Lotsa straight people showing their bits, and if you don't want your kids to see it, don't bring them to the thing! I don't mean this in a condescending way, so apologies if it sounds like it, but not every place is meant for kids. Pride is for people to take joy in a part of them that so often society gives them shit for. Don't bring your kid to the parade if you don't want them to see anything inappropriate, just as you'd steer clear of Bourbon street on Mardi Gras.
I mean, it'd be one thing if the parades were randomly distributed, with no prior warning, but they are heavily advertised and...you know...parades. they block off the street and stuff.

 

[lovecat]

Okay, but that's true of Mardi Gras. Lotsa straight people showing their bits, and if you don't want your kids to see it, don't bring them to the thing! I don't mean this in a condescending way, so apologies if it sounds like it, but not every place is meant for kids. Pride is for people to take joy in a part of them that so often society gives them shit for. Don't bring your kid to the parade if you don't want them to see anything inappropriate, just as you'd steer clear of Bourbon street on Mardi Gras.
I mean, it'd be one thing if the parades were randomly distributed, with no prior warning, but they are heavily advertised and...you know...parades. they block off the street and stuff.

I agree so hard. I rarely ever hear of anyone complaining about a women showing off their naughty bits/hetero couples being overly affectionate in public. In my opinion it's a huge double standard and it's kind of insulting to the LGBT community to say they shouldn't do such things. Especially because like you said it's announced, roads are blocked off, etc.

 

[Rose]

The comments section on that article was just mind blowing.....I wasn't entirely sure that that kind of intolerance could really exist. :shock:

 

[AnabelleLeigh]

The comments section on that article was just mind blowing.....I wasn't entirely sure that that kind of intolerance could really exist. :shock:

Then you must not be from the south lol

 

[SoTxBob]

Awww com'on now... that was actually pretty mild when you consider it was indeed in a bible thumpers rag. They do remain fairly true to color tho bashing away with scripture and verse twisted to whatever liking they need. I'd love to have seen what they said about the last padre/child molestation incident that was pretty well swept under the medias rug. . While we here are much more open about sexuality and the associated ... 'diversity,' we are by no means anywhere near a mainstream majority. This gay/anti gay hypocrisy stuff is in the news quite frequently and if you are in the south or near the bible belt it's kind of 'hohum' BC it is so common. :dontknow:

 

[Rose]

The comments section on that article was just mind blowing.....I wasn't entirely sure that that kind of intolerance could really exist. :shock:

Then you must not be from the south lol

Nope, but I have lived here for the last 12 years. I don't usually see intolerance to that level though.

 

[AllisonWilder]

Okay, but that's true of Mardi Gras. Lotsa straight people showing their bits, and if you don't want your kids to see it, don't bring them to the thing! I don't mean this in a condescending way, so apologies if it sounds like it, but not every place is meant for kids. Pride is for people to take joy in a part of them that so often society gives them shit for. Don't bring your kid to the parade if you don't want them to see anything inappropriate, just as you'd steer clear of Bourbon street on Mardi Gras.
I mean, it'd be one thing if the parades were randomly distributed, with no prior warning, but they are heavily advertised and...you know...parades. they block off the street and stuff.

So, I get what you're saying and all and I wouldn't ever bring my kid down Bourbon Street on Mardi Gras, but I didn't think Pride parades were something kids should be excluded from. I mean, showing pride and standing up against intolerance is what these events are all about, right? Idk, I guess. I just want my kid to learn these values and I think the best way to do that is at an event such as Pride.

I attend the Pride events that happens every year in the town over from mine and these over-the-top sexual displays don't happen right out on a float or some such incredibly public place. And it wouldn't actually be a problem if it happened like on the street or sidewalk or wherever, I could easily divert attention elsewhere and go on about my day. I can take my kid knowing he's going to see a lot off awesomeness, hear lots of music and smile a lot because it's really a sight to see!

 

[LovinLeanne]

I'm in no way agreeing with what the article said or how they said it. What people do in the bedroom is nobody's business but the people in said bedroom. What irks me is all the in your face PDA shite like the below exemplifies. That kinda shite has no business being done in public with children in attendance, much less on a parade float. It would make no difference if it were a hetero couple, it's not appropriate in public with children around.

Read more... viewtopic.php?f=12&t=1791&hilit=Gay+Pride&start=30

I couldn't agree more...I have 4 kids and would be quite pissed to say the least if people behaved like that in front of them.

 

[LovinLeanne]

Okay, but that's true of Mardi Gras. Lotsa straight people showing their bits, and if you don't want your kids to see it, don't bring them to the thing! I don't mean this in a condescending way, so apologies if it sounds like it, but not every place is meant for kids. Pride is for people to take joy in a part of them that so often society gives them shit for. Don't bring your kid to the parade if you don't want them to see anything inappropriate, just as you'd steer clear of Bourbon street on Mardi Gras.
I mean, it'd be one thing if the parades were randomly distributed, with no prior warning, but they are heavily advertised and...you know...parades. they block off the street and stuff.

So, I get what you're saying and all and I wouldn't ever bring my kid down Bourbon Street on Mardi Gras, but I didn't think Pride parades were something kids should be excluded from. I mean, showing pride and standing up against intolerance is what these events are all about, right? Idk, I guess. I just want my kid to learn these values and I think the best way to do that is at an event such as Pride.

I attend the Pride events that happens every year in the town over from mine and these over-the-top sexual displays don't happen right out on a float or some such incredibly public place. And it wouldn't actually be a problem if it happened like on the street or sidewalk or wherever, I could easily divert attention elsewhere and go on about my day. I can take my kid knowing he's going to see a lot off awesomeness, hear lots of music and smile a lot because it's really a sight to see!

Those were my thoughts exactly....I don't take mine to rodeos, horse races, or even BBQ's where there is alot of alcohol. But a pride parade I would think would be a good thing...not from that photo tho

Also I get pissed off when I take my kids to the park and some teenagers are mauling each other in the grass. And yes I do say something hahah

 

[mynameisbob84]

I'm with IsabelleL, yo. If you're worried about your kids being exposed to same-sex dry humping, don't take them to the gay parade. If you want to expose them to the underlying message of the gay parade but don't want them to see anything sexual, then you need to decide if the pros outweigh the cons.
But these things are what they are. You can't reasonably expect them to change because they have bits that you either don't want your kids seeing, or that you'd rather not see yourself :twocents-02cents:

 

[Bocefish]

When I first heard of the gay pride parade, I thought to myself that's cool. I assumed it was intended to "promote" acceptance, tolerance, and equality for the gay community. If the gay community thinks what they're doing is advancing the movement by raunchy, in your face type public displays of homosexual sex acts... they're wrong. All they're accomplishing by the kind of so-called pride parades going on now is cementing the debauched and distorted image of gay life straight out of the most virulent right-wing hate literature. The keep your kids at home excuse is like saying children are too young to see gay people because they do rude and inappropriate things in public you shouldn't see.

:twocents-02cents:

 

[mynameisbob84]

When I first heard of the gay pride parade, I thought to myself that's cool. I assumed it was intended to "promote" acceptance, tolerance, and equality for the gay community. If the gay community thinks what they're doing is advancing the movement by raunchy, in your face type public displays of homosexual sex acts... they're wrong. All they're accomplishing by the kind of so-called pride parades going on now is cementing the debauched and distorted image of gay life straight out of the most virulent right-wing hate literature. The keep your kids at home excuse is like saying children are too young to see gay people because they do rude and inappropriate things in public you shouldn't see.
:twocents-02cents:

It's not so much an excuse as it is a choice. Some parents are gonna be open and frank about the birds and bees when their kids are still young; others are gonna prefer to hold off on teaching their kids about sexuality until they're older and more able to process what they're being told.
But if a parent chooses to take their kid to a gay parade, it's only natural that the kid is gonna wonder what's going on. And really, if the parent isn't prepared to tell them, they probably shouldn't have taken them in the first place.

 

[Bocefish]

Then they should more precisely rename it as the Gay SEX PDA Parade so parents are more aware of what exactly they're taking their young children to instead of being blind sided and then forced to explain what gay people do in their bedrooms and why it's OK for them to do it in public but nobody else should.

 

[Shaun__]

The gay pride parades can be overly sexual, because they are constantly persecuted the rest of the year. They view it as a time they can be gay, and not hide any part of themselves. If you do not want to see gay people acting gay then do not go to them, but let them have one day of the year they can stop hiding. It is no different than straight people acting straight at Mardi Gras. I was taken to that as a child, and I did not notice any of the adult stuff, because I was trying to get things thrown off the floats. Children have a much more innocent view of the world than adults.

 

[Bocefish]

If you do not want to see gay people acting gay then do not go to them, but let them have one day of the year they can stop hiding. It is no different than straight people acting straight at Mardi Gras.

What does acting gay mean?

I guess hetero adults should also have a parade in every major city where they can stop hiding what they do in the privacy of their own bedrooms and act it out in public too. :roll: Plenty of gay people denounce the over the top public sexual acts during gay pride too. All I'm saying is leave the blatant adult sexual acts out of the public eyes during the celebrations.

 

[AmberCutie]

What does acting gay mean?

This was my immediate reaction, too.

Acting gay?

 

[Mirra]

Meh... I still stand by what I said in the thread Bocefish linked to. I don't give a fuck what your sexual preference is, what your religious beliefs are, or even your political affiliation. I have all of those things too and doubt you give a fuck about them. If you do, stop stalking me and mind your own damn business. I wish we could all just be ourselves, be happy to be ourselves, and be happy to have friends who can be themselves. Advertising what sexual preference, religion you belong to, or political views with a public display or even a fucking bumper sticker seems completely unnecessary, attention-seeking behavior to me. Maybe I just don't get it but I feel like focusing so much on our differences claiming a desire for tolerance is like waving your dick around claiming a desire for a nice breeze. There are plenty of things we can all agree on, things we all appreciate in life regardless of all that other bullshit and those are the things that need parades and shit. I don't care for either side of this. The intolerant, fundamentalist Christians or the public display of the Gay parade thing. They are opposite sides of the same pile of shit. One parades their sexuality for all to see and the other parades their sense of morality. Fuck them both. I'm all for Celebrating our differences but making a spectacle of it is selfish.

Also the comparison of Mardi Gras to Gay Pride parades in adult content may be true but the reasons for them existing could not be more different. Mardi Gras is a celebration of the day before Ash Wednesday and the start of the season of Lent. Fat Tuesday or Shrove Tuesday are the other names for Mardi Gras. I grew up Lutheran so we used to always do a pancake supper on Fat Tuesday before everyone started their Fasting or giving up of certain luxuries. It has definitely transformed into a festival of indulgence of all types rather than its original purpose. Sorry... knowing the reason for its existence the comparison bothered me. Their inceptions are total opposites despite how similar they may seem now thanks to the popularity of the Mardi Gras parade in New Orleans.

 

[SoTxBob]

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But if a parent chooses to take their kid to a gay parade, it's only natural that the kid is gonna wonder what's going on. And really, if the parent isn't prepared to tell them, they probably shouldn't have taken them in the first place.

My guess is the parents that aren't ready for the discussion of gay Vs hetero [or anything else you frequently see at a GPP], wouldn't be in the street to see it anyway.

I also agree with "why the overt sexual crap in the street setting." If gays can get away with sexual/bedroom behavior in the parade, then I'd surmise we need parades for strippers, camgirls, pornstars, and every other "genre" of sexual activity just to no one feels slighted or left out of the public eye.....

 

[Shaun__]

If you do not want to see gay people acting gay then do not go to them, but let them have one day of the year they can stop hiding. It is no different than straight people acting straight at Mardi Gras.

What does acting gay mean?

I guess hetero adults should also have a parade in every major city where they can stop hiding what they do in the privacy of their own bedrooms and act it out in public too. :roll: Plenty of gay people denounce the over the top public sexual acts during gay pride too. All I'm saying is leave the blatant adult sexual acts out of the public eyes during the celebrations.

Like I said they are acting as flamboyantly gay as gayly possible. Do you really think they go to the office the next day and hump passing men? They are acting out, because they are frustrated and probably a little drunk. They are one of the few groups that it is still considered okay to discriminate against, it has to be very stressful situation for them. I think as their lifestyle becomes more excepted by society as a whole things like that will decrease, but it will never completely stop because most men are horndogs.

 

[AliceDoe]

The terminology so familiar to those of us who were brought up with church and Sunday School is as much beyond most people as computer-speak was for me at first. (Isn’t a “menu” to do with cookery?!” Why do you press “Start” when you want to turn it off???” And, more recently, “What on earth is a dongle???”

Yeah.... Computer-speak, confusing stuff... Imagine trying to explain Proxy servers or even Torrent downloading to this guy! :lol:

As for the explicit things in the pride parades, I think there's one thing people are sort of not seeing.
We (the LGBT community) are not a new addition to this world, people have been living lies under the oppression of outdated and ignorant "morals" for a very long time. There have been years of quite reasoning and tries at acceptance and equality in a peaceful and respecting manner - still people are abused and even killed because they love someone they "shouldn't"!

Basically, a lot of us are sick of tip-toeing around trying not to hurt any feelings, because if who I am hurts your feelings it's really your own damn problem! The "in-your-face-attitude" is something that has been forced out by the ignorance and hate of the homophobic community, it is us saying "we give up, you can't be reasoned with - but at least we can shove it in your face that we're here and we're not going anywhere! Learn to accept us, or be angry and bitter for the rest of your life". The shock factor is a big part of this. I agree that some individuals take this to an extreme - but can't you see and understand the frustration this is coming from?

Just imagine strangers telling YOU who to love, how to have sex and whether or not you can marry your sweetheart...
:twocents-02cents:

 

[Bocefish]

Like I said they are acting as flamboyantly gay as gayly possible. Do you really think they go to the office the next day and hump passing men? They are acting out, because they are frustrated and probably a little drunk.

I guess that means straight guys go to the office and hump passing women daily. :lol: I understand the flamboyance thing but they also need to realize they're in a public setting where children are watching and act accordingly.

 

[Shaun__]

Like I said they are acting as flamboyantly gay as gayly possible. Do you really think they go to the office the next day and hump passing men? They are acting out, because they are frustrated and probably a little drunk.

I guess that means straight guys go to the office and hump passing women daily. :lol: I understand the flamboyance thing but they also need to realize they're in a public setting where children are watching and act accordingly.

I will start worrying about them when heterosexual people in drunken parades start behaving when children are watching.

 

[Mirra]

Basically, a lot of us are sick of tip-toeing around trying not to hurt any feelings, because if who I am hurts your feelings it's really your own damn problem! The "in-your-face-attitude" is something that has been forced out by the ignorance and hate of the homophobic community, it is us saying "we give up, you can't be reasoned with - but at least we can shove it in your face that we're here and we're not going anywhere! Learn to accept us, or be angry and bitter for the rest of your life". The shock factor is a big part of this. I agree that some individuals take this to an extreme - but can't you see and understand the frustration this is coming from?

This to me is approximately equivalent to a two year old throwing a temper tantrum. Justification doesn't even matter at that point it's just acting out. These acts of frustration will not be what wins the fight for equality. That battle will be won, in my opinion, when no government official or agency can deny the community any of the rights granted to a heterosexual person or couple. It will be accomplished with more discussions between the right people in the right parts of the world's governments. Intolerance and hate crimes will continue to happen (sadly) as long as there are zealous idiots who believe there are people out there whose lives are wrong and must be corrected. If anyone knows how to win THAT battle, I am sure a lot of minority groups would like to know the secret.

 

[Bocefish]

Like I said they are acting as flamboyantly gay as gayly possible. Do you really think they go to the office the next day and hump passing men? They are acting out, because they are frustrated and probably a little drunk.

I guess that means straight guys go to the office and hump passing women daily. :lol: I understand the flamboyance thing but they also need to realize they're in a public setting where children are watching and act accordingly.

I will start worrying about them when heterosexual people in drunken parades start behaving when children are watching.

Yeah, Mickey should really stop fucking Minnie every year.

Barely clothed adults that intentionally and continually act out anal fucking in a public setting among children is deplorable, I don't give a shit what sexual preference they are. Why should we condone that type of behavior just because they are gay? I for one don't. YMMV