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    I did not compare the two. You are putting words in my mouth. I have counselled victims and know many so be careful who you accused. Just because you are a victim does not give you the right to accuse me of terrible things. I am extremely sorry and angry about what happened to you ok. It...
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    I know everyone else is bored. But just in case anyone else gets into this situation winning tactic at the moment seems to be My friend has been annoying her for days, behaving like a loser until she gets impatient. He's having to risk humiliation in front of her other users and her family...
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    I'm not garbage. You are Audri because if your attitude to victims of crime who have their lives destroyed. I'm the opposite of garbage. I'm a keeper who cares about people unlike you.
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    No I will just avoid sites like this one that are basically full of trolls Anyway at the moment current tactics seem to be working which is to piss off the model so much she leaves my friend alone. But she still keeps coming. Hopefully eventually she will leave him alone
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    well thats victim blaming just like blaming the victim of a rape or a robbery of being stupid and gullble
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    yet another who doesn't read the thread or the issues
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    Clearly if they are all criminals. But you assured me they aren't Plus I've seen hundreds of models and its only a certain group who follow this MO But the other "lesser" scams are more widespread throughout
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    How many times do I have to say it. the models pursue the clients and manipulate people in these cases. My friend did not go looking for a relationship. He went for a bit of harmless fun and is now being conned by an established scam MO which involves great deal of psychologicl and emotional...
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    So everyone who is a victim of crime is stupid and gulible according to you. It appears criminality and those attitudes are rife in this inusutry judging by most responses here
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    I am actually talking about a close friend who I care about very much. If you wonder why I feel the way I do its because I fell for a few of these scams myself years ago and they still upset me a lot. You shouldnt jump to conclusions mate but Ive read some of your posts before and you and many...
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    Chaturbate doesn't ban it. What right do sites have to ban offsite contact anyway. But sure I accept that getting into "relationship" is not a good idea but that is part of the established scam MO by some parts of the industry. Eg bosses of studios in some countries who direct the models what to...
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    I'm talking about the systemic nature of scams. And scamming can be done through the token system. It doesn't have to be offline payment to be a scam. Anything that deceives someone into giving tokens is a scam. Pretending to be in love and in some kind of relationship is one of the main ones...
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    I think you will find in some countries the scam percentage is high. Plus there are many other scams divined on here such as the tip activation scam and many other forms of fraud. I'm not accusing everyone at all. Just those who engage and after 5 years I've seen a lot. Its a lot easier for...
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    My poor friend doesn't know what to do because every time he tries to end it she acts really hurt and he can't handle hurting people. Its just horrible. He just doesn't know how to get out of the situation. People are being defrauded thousands or tens of thousands of dollars that they can't and...
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    None this addresses the massive scams that everyone knows and are endemic and are an accepted and documented part of the industry. And whenever anyone brings issues up they get attacked. Anyway the topic was a specific scam and the tendency of many to blame victims of scams. In my book victim...
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    Anyway this has all totally derailed my discussion about my poor friend being scammed out of his money. They arn't conspiracy theories. Its based on quite extensive research and knowledge. I'm not into conspiracies:) Anyway, I hope you realise I have nothing at all against all the legit...
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    I didn't mean all the performers Mollie. I was talking about the broader industry and everything that surrounds it. My word "majority" was purely based n speculation based upon the amount of fraud and my knowledge of the structure of much of the industry and the nature of much of the money...
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    I disagree somewhat. It ignores the human dimension of emotions and vulnerability. It is very convenient to assume that all victims of scams are ignorant. That is akin to other forms of victim blaming to justify crimes
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    Its not in every industry in this way. And this one is particularly susceptible to massive crime and fraud given the international nature of it, the lack of regulations and control, the level of scamming, the potential for blackmail, identity theft, the exploitation of many parties (including...
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    Maybe people need to keep showing parts of this industry up and the massive frrauds involved and other scams. I know there are many honest operators but I would suspect the majoity of the industry is criminal as are those who speak up for it and blame victims of crime.
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