I Am Officially THE Worst Cam Girl Ever

You could start with a link to your profile in your sig. Then we could at least come and say hello online, who knows maybe even become regular tipper.
Saying that welcome to the forums and I hope things pick up for you.
Although I'm not a model I would have to say that sometimes it take time to be recognised and become popular. I think it is a matter of building up a fan base first and that can take time.
Also, have you tried camming in different time zones? That may be the answer.
Once you have model status I'm lead to believe there is more info in the locked sections that I'm sure would help you out.
In the meantime I suggest just keep trying and hopefully it will turn around for you. Plenty of rags to riches stories here.

lol "You heard me" :lol:

Honestly, i think being more positive would be a start. I don't know any great cam models that have ever stated they were the worst. Actually, even when they were struggling they would say, "it's fine, i'm going to get big soon!" When i'm having a bad day, then go on cam, i don't make as much money. Even if i smile, it just shows. Ttry going in with a positive attitude before hand and if it goes slow, don't get all negative again.

Oh and i know some don't agree with this, but after 30min of little $, i log off and try again in 30min. And a whole different crowds in my room. It has worked for me!

Well, once you get Model Status, I promise there is a HUGE wealth of information that you have not even touched on in this forum. :]

My best advice for low camscore is - take EVERY private you can, keep moving and switch between sexy poses instead of grtting stuck in the same position. And if you're not making money within an hour, log off and log back on in another hour or so.

You're not the worst cam girl ever. You're actually win for admitting you're having a hard time getting started. What's your link? I'll rate and admire you just for your sincerity.

Don't observe other girls. What works for them might not work for the next girl and so on. Do your own thing, have fun with it, let your personality come out, throw a smile on your face and don't just look to do whatever to please just any premium who joins. Weed out the ones who you can tell will be a waste of time and just work over the ones who actually want to spend time with you. I don't blame you for banning the one guy. If someone disrespects you definitely ban them. Your dignity can't be bought. If you let him stay you'd be disrespecting yourself. Don't get discouraged and be patient. Eventually you'll get the right guy coming in at the right time and then things will start becoming a lot easier. If you feel like you've tried everything sexual and it doesn't work just do something crazy or normal on cam instead for the entertainment factor. Not everyone goes on MFC just for a wank. For example I saw a 27 year old European girl on yesterday that all she does is talk, sing, dance, play all kinds of music and I don't know what else. I was only in there for a few minutes. I saw on her profile she had screen shots of tips that were 1,000 token tips, multiple 100 token tips in a row, multiple 10 token tips in a row, a 900 token tip, and so on. She doesn't get a lot of people joining her room at all. Just a few of the RIGHT people who want to make her happy. Pretty impressive for a girl who isn't providing breasts or vagina.

Edit to the first part of my post: Nevermind. Found your MFC. Rating and admiring.

I hope the idiot members on MFC who constantly whine that being a cam model is the easiest thing in the world and that they wish they could lay around naked all day getting paid to masturbate would read this thread and then STFU. Going 2 hours without a single tip? Yikes!

ComicOzzie said:

I hope the idiot members on MFC who constantly whine that being a cam model is the easiest thing in the world and that they wish they could lay around naked all day getting paid to masturbate would read this thread and then STFU. Going 2 hours without a single tip? Yikes!

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I've gone 3-6 hours without even a 10 token tip. I recall 2 bad weeks in particular, 6+ entire shifts with 0 tokens. That's why I stopped using MFC for a bit, my camscore was tanking and those weeks were just ridiculous. Had to take a break, get my mindset back, and dive into a different site.

analbleaching said:

Don't observe other girls. What works for them might not work for the next girl and so on. Do your own thing,

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*raises hand*

Um observing girls is in most cases a very productive thing to do if you can do it objectively.
Observing does not mean copying. If you don't know what your competitors are doing you're a moron in any other bizz.

When I started out I watched (and still do) all the time. I watched the girls that were doing well and took notes on what they were doing that worked.
I watched the rising stars - and saw what they were doing that was causing that rise.

And I watched the girls who were struggling to learn from their mistakes.

Take all that info, arm yourself with it and then go into it as the unique individual you are!

also: Please get your butt into models only. YOu are not the worst cam model ever. Camming is a bumpy ride. *HUGS*

have you got into models only yet Eliz? This discussion is really more suited to there. You will get more open responses because in the main forums we are always thinking about what members are going to think when they see things.

It's also been discussed in there with lots of info in the threads in there if you use the search function!

you don't have to block models, its just a personal preference. I don't block models personally because I haven't had any bad experiences so far with a model being in my room

All I know is if I am preparing to cam and am in a sour/sad/bad mood, I usually won't go on, I try to listen to fun music, clean my place and make sure that I am in a happy place before I log on! I think when I am in a good mood it really shows to everyone and the environment is more fun.

MFC is not an easy site to break into right off the bat. You have to make friends on there and stay persistent to get people in your room and regulars who come in every night. I've been doing this for about 6 weeks and I'm nowhere near as good as I hoped I would be by now. You just have to stick with it. I've really had a hard time because there's not as much love for the bigger girls, but I do have guys that are in my room every single time I'm online now. I've gotten some great tips and had shifts where I really felt like everything was going great, and I've had some nights where I logged off and cried myself to sleep. Most of the time I don't even make my countdown, which I will tell you is less than what most girls ask.

The two pieces of advice that I can give you after the short amount of time are this:

1) Talk to everyone. There are members who will get frustrated because you're holding a conversation instead of fisting your ass for free, but they are far between. I have guys tell me every night how nice it is that I talk to everyone and that so many girls they see aren't personable. A lot of my regular tippers come back because they enjoy the conversation. I still dance, tease, and get naked, but don't underestimate the power of making friends on MFC.

2) Groups and privates are a goldmine. Unless you just aren't feeling it, don't turn them down. This is where a lot of my tokens come from. Also, the guys in the room seem to love it when I come back from a private all flustered and cum drunk. They usually work pretty hard to keep me in the mood!

Sorry my posts are always so long-winded, but I wanted you to know aren't alone in your struggle. At this point, I'm comfortable knowing that I get on MFC more because I enjoy than for the money, especially because I don't always make a lot, but it seems like I've made more money since my perspective has changed.

Hang in there.

As a member i can say MFC can be a finicky place... i've watched beautiful women struggle with attaining a following on MFC... and then could do nothing but scratch my head over how baffled i was some make it into the top 20... so the 1st thing i would do is cut yourself some slack... But there are 4 things i've noticed that can mean the difference between being successful and unsuccessful on MFC are

1) make connections with the members - pretty much every successful room i've been in has a core group of guys that make the cornerstone of the tippers... its that group of 3 - 5 guys that are always in the room and regular tippers... guys don't devote themselves to someone like that they don't feel a connection with.. so being yourself is #1 in my opinion... while it's nice to flirt with the model... talking about something other than sex non-stop is what will interest me

2) don't be shy about promoting yourself - twitter should damn near be mandatory for any girl wanting to work on mfc... its a way to help connect with the guys in your room... as well as let people know what your status is with getting online... results of raffles... general FYI's about your day... So push your twitter feed in your room regularly (And by regularly i mean a lot and often) so guys that like you can follow you... news feeds are also important and don't be shy to send them out if your doing a show (Excessive news feeds from a single model piss me off though)

3) work a lot of hours - Get yourself out there... If you want a following it takes a commitment of time on your part... I've seen some very attractive women only work a couple hours over the course of a day... and then they don't understand how come they aren't popular... if you're not online long enough to give the guys a chance to trickle into your room... then they'll never know you're there... some of the top models on MFC can get away with only working a few hours every couple of days and maintain a high cam score & make the top 20... but i imagine they were only able to attain this after many many hours of being bored to death talking to endless non-tippers

4) work regular hours - mix it up to find what time of day works best for you... but once you find it... stick with it... if a girl's hours are erratic... and will bounce around with the times she's online... i find myself only popping into her room now and then and won't frequent her room regularly... I mean if i like a model and i know she'll always be on between 10 - 2... chances are good i'll find my way into her room before the girl that i only see online a couple times a week

don't kill yourself if your not as popular as you want to be or you have a low cam score right now... i use to hang out in 1 models room that was stuck at a 3k cam score for her 1st 9-10 months on MFC before she finally caught fire... now she makes the top 20 with regularity... so to bottom line it... it simply takes time to get where you want to go... anyway... that's my .02 cents... hope you find my opinion helpful

Sounds like you're a UKGG fan - it works for her because she's original. You can't be her, you have to be yourself. You want guys to be like, GOD I need to get out of this room and get to my favorite Elizabeth's room because the vibe is so different and awesome than all the other girls. Your vibe might not appeal to all the guys, but it will with some.

For example, many guys have commented that my room is very relaxing and calm with the music I play and my attitude and they enjoy that very much. They say they come to my room to relax. But I've had dudes come through who say, "You're cute, but your room just isn't my vibe."

You've gotta have your own vibe. It might have a little UKGG thrown in the mix, but it's gotta be pure Elizabeth for you to shine, methinks.

Add some pics to your profile. I know the saying of "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" but if potential tippers can't behold your beauty, how are you going to make a bounty?

Miss_Lollipop said:

If you don't know what your competitors are doing you're a moron in any other bizz.

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The people who clicked "Thanks" on your post are stupid for this one reason. MFC isn't a competition. If you look at yourself as competing against the other girls on the site then no wonder you had to look at other girls trying to implement their shows into yours. There's nothing wrong with observing. But observe how the premiums who are joining react to things she SAYS. Not things she does. Understand how someone's brain works and you will know how to pull tokens out of them no matter who it is. So I don't know how you can say MFC is a competition. I thought girls joined MFC to make money.... Not join to get a clit boner over competing against other girls who don't mean shit. Not making the top 20 isn't going to make or break someone being able to pay your bills. And this isn't "any other bizz".... It's webcamming.

Miss_Lollipop said:

I watched the girls that were doing well and took notes on what they were doing that worked.
I watched the rising stars - and saw what they were doing that was causing that rise.

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Like I said in my previous post just because something works (causing a rise) for one girl doesn't mean it will do the same for you. Your personality is not their personality. Your body (no offense) is certainly not their body. Just because you see one girl fail at trying to do something doesn't mean you would fail at doing the same thing. For example a lot of girls do retarded games that work. For the OP of this though games didn't work for her. Just because one girl is able to pull something off doesn't mean you would be able to. What you're able to do depends solely on the crowd who is joining your room at that particular time. Trying to do the same routine every time isn't always going to work. You know how to talk, how to react, what to do based on how the the thought process of the premiums who are joining are. For example, I guarantee you I can talk any of you women posting in this thread into something. Can you say the same about you towards your premiums?

Elizabeth said:

I believe in the positivity thing and I will try harder not to get negative. I do watch other models, both the top and the newbies. There is one that I love. I won't say her name (the namedropping thing) but she's British and extremely rude. The men LOVE her. When she's cussing them out is when she gets the most tips. I tried a little attitude the other night (meaning I was a cranky bitch) and they seemed to like it (weird!!!) but still didn't tip. I had gone on early in the evening instead of late night and had so few in my room. I also tried the 'platonic' thing you're talking about, Analbleaching. I admit I had fun with that one - just bra and boyshort - playing songs for the guys and luckily that night, one amazing guy came into my room and took pity on me I think. He dropped PM tips and told me not to give up, encouraged the other guys to tip (a few did), added me to twitter, etc. He told me he thought I had potential to do well and largely because I am so interactive and genuinely seem to care about the guys and what they have to say. Normally, I'm extremely positive and talk to them about whatever.

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I clicked thanks instead of quote by mistake.

If you look upset people are going to be able to tell you're frustrated. Most guys will feel bad for the girl and tip just to try making her happy. For the most part though guys don't want to jerk it to a girl who is depressed. You got lucky having the right guy come in at that time who did drop tips and possibly encouraged others to do so too. That's not something you can do every night though.



Didn't bother reading the other replies. This post of mine is long enough.

analbleaching said:

Miss_Lollipop said:

If you don't know what your competitors are doing you're a moron in any other bizz.

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The people who clicked "Thanks" on your post are stupid for this one reason. MFC isn't a competition. If you look at yourself as competing against the other girls on the site then no wonder you had to look at other girls trying to implement their shows into yours. There's nothing wrong with observing. But observe how the premiums who are joining react to things she SAYS. Not things she does. Understand how someone's brain works and you will know how to pull tokens out of them no matter who it is. So I don't know how you can say MFC is a competition. I thought girls joined MFC to make money.... Not join to get a clit boner over competing against other girls who don't mean shit. Not making the top 20 isn't going to make or break someone being able to pay your bills. And this isn't "any other bizz".... It's webcamming.

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OK let me clarify. By competition i do not mean the top 20. Nor do I mean 'stomp the other girls out' competition. Webcamming is a business. Just like every other type of business on the planet it has its unique challenges but it is still a brand and a business that I'm developing. There are those providing the services and products, and there are the consumers. Finding a niche is important. The same general business principles would seem to apply?

Models are competitors. If I don't keep my guys happy, they will find another model who does.

By observing other models I learned what worked and what didn't. Including what they SAY and HOW THEY SAY IT.

For example:
I see that the top models are all making a constant effort to interact with their rooms. I do this! And it works!

I see Agent99 seems to get a lot of attention when she's doing her public shows. I see a lot of thigns I don't like, but i do see that she draws a crowd.
I'm an exhibitionist. So I do my own version of a public exposure show, with less drama and more flirting. And it works!

I see a niche for fetish models- there aren't many on the site. I watch the successful ones. Guys seem to like spanking. I happen to love being spanked!
I impliment my own unique system.

I see that models with profiles that are well done generally do better than those who have profiles with no info. So i put effort into mine. And it worked!

I see that models who sit in PM all the time have boring rooms. I make an effort not to do that! And it worked!

I see that models who look sad all the time have boring rooms. I make an effort not to do that too.

I see that models who use twitter do better. i try it. I actually like it. And it works!

I see that models who blog do well. I try it. I really like it. And it works!

I see that models who have their own website do well. I don't feel comfortbale doing a members only section, because of pressure to keep up with content, so I make my own version. And it works!

I try a few things that I think are awesome but nobody else does. They might work for other models but not for me. OK lesson learned. Cool idea. I move on.

I could keep going all day.

I believe in learning from others, and putting your own spin on it. I don't think so poorly of the other successful wonderful models on cam that I cannot learn a thing or two by watching them!

That's my last word on the subject. I'm gonna bow out

Elizabeth you will do fine and you are NOT the worst model. Keep trying. Don't be afraid to experiment.

Link in sig may be helpful.
Check out other people and see what they're doing (which the link in my sig will help).
Focus on moving forward and being a good cam model and not the poor performance you've seen in the past. Webcamming is very fickle.

analbleaching said:

The people who clicked "Thanks" on your post are stupid for this one reason.MFC isn't a competition. I thought girls joined MFC to make money.... Not join to get a clit boner over competing against other girls who don't mean shit. And this isn't "any other bizz".... It's webcamming.

For example, I guarantee you I can talk any of you women posting in this thread into something. Can you say the same about you towards your premiums?

Didn't bother reading the other replies. This post of mine is long enough.

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Insult a bunch of people, including the creator of this forum.
Insinuate you understand how being a camgirl works from the camgirl's perspective.
Insist you can do something that I -guarantee- you can't do.
Expect others to read your post but do not read their's.

Carry on, this should be fun.

BluexDakota said:

analbleaching said:

The people who clicked "Thanks" on your post are stupid for this one reason.MFC isn't a competition. I thought girls joined MFC to make money.... Not join to get a clit boner over competing against other girls who don't mean shit. And this isn't "any other bizz".... It's webcamming.

For example, I guarantee you I can talk any of you women posting in this thread into something. Can you say the same about you towards your premiums?

Didn't bother reading the other replies. This post of mine is long enough.

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Insult a bunch of people, including the creator of this forum.
Insinuate you understand how being a camgirl works from the camgirl's perspective.
Insist you can do something that I -guarantee- you can't do.
Expect others to read your post but do not read their's.

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Carry on, this should be fun.

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Can i delete my reply and repeat yours. Yours was much better. *now i really am out*

I was reading your profile and one thing that got me was you talking about your goals

5) My goal is $50,000 on MFC. Anyone who takes me to that goal will get one amazingly hot, private show, access to private email, and add to Messenger. Possibly more...
6) Ultimate goal is $100,000 on MFC. Anyone who takes me there will get all of the above, my phone number, and a date!

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That can be bad in two ways.

First is that kind of sends the wrong message to anyone reading it that your focus is to get as much money out of a member as you can.
2ND those are big goals I understand you have a lot of debit but I am working my way out of some also and something that really helped me is to break it down into smaller amounts it makes it easier to finish a goal and makes you feel better about it. Then you can focus on the next goal and you have a little more to take care of this new goal because you just paid off the last thing.
It's been said on here before but your mood will come through and make a world of differences

Try breaking it down into a monthly goal or something like that and have some reward for everyone, and also a special reward for highest tipper. There are a lot of things you can do just give it time.

Since there are so many hot women on MFC (and my hat's off to everyone who does it because know it isn't easy at all), I would turn into one of those cam girls who do shows in their cars and stuff. For some reason, those women who do that always seem to make a lot of money and stand out in the crowd. Just don't be stupid and get yourself banned from MFC for having guys on cam like another former model who now cams on a site with maybe 6 people in her room now.

analbleaching said:

Miss_Lollipop said:

If you don't know what your competitors are doing you're a moron in any other bizz.

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The people who clicked "Thanks" on your post are stupid for this one reason. MFC isn't a competition. If you look at yourself as competing against the other girls on the site then no wonder you had to look at other girls trying to implement their shows into yours. There's nothing wrong with observing. But observe how the premiums who are joining react to things she SAYS. Not things she does. Understand how someone's brain works and you will know how to pull tokens out of them no matter who it is. So I don't know how you can say MFC is a competition. I thought girls joined MFC to make money.... Not join to get a clit boner over competing against other girls who don't mean shit. Not making the top 20 isn't going to make or break someone being able to pay your bills. And this isn't "any other bizz".... It's webcamming.

Miss_Lollipop said:

I watched the girls that were doing well and took notes on what they were doing that worked.
I watched the rising stars - and saw what they were doing that was causing that rise.

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Like I said in my previous post just because something works (causing a rise) for one girl doesn't mean it will do the same for you. Your personality is not their personality. Your body (no offense) is certainly not their body. Just because you see one girl fail at trying to do something doesn't mean you would fail at doing the same thing. For example a lot of girls do retarded games that work. For the OP of this though games didn't work for her. Just because one girl is able to pull something off doesn't mean you would be able to. What you're able to do depends solely on the crowd who is joining your room at that particular time. Trying to do the same routine every time isn't always going to work. You know how to talk, how to react, what to do based on how the the thought process of the premiums who are joining are. For example, I guarantee you I can talk any of you women posting in this thread into something. Can you say the same about you towards your premiums?

Elizabeth said:

I believe in the positivity thing and I will try harder not to get negative. I do watch other models, both the top and the newbies. There is one that I love. I won't say her name (the namedropping thing) but she's British and extremely rude. The men LOVE her. When she's cussing them out is when she gets the most tips. I tried a little attitude the other night (meaning I was a cranky bitch) and they seemed to like it (weird!!!) but still didn't tip. I had gone on early in the evening instead of late night and had so few in my room. I also tried the 'platonic' thing you're talking about, Analbleaching. I admit I had fun with that one - just bra and boyshort - playing songs for the guys and luckily that night, one amazing guy came into my room and took pity on me I think. He dropped PM tips and told me not to give up, encouraged the other guys to tip (a few did), added me to twitter, etc. He told me he thought I had potential to do well and largely because I am so interactive and genuinely seem to care about the guys and what they have to say. Normally, I'm extremely positive and talk to them about whatever.

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I clicked thanks instead of quote by mistake.

If you look upset people are going to be able to tell you're frustrated. Most guys will feel bad for the girl and tip just to try making her happy. For the most part though guys don't want to jerk it to a girl who is depressed. You got lucky having the right guy come in at that time who did drop tips and possibly encouraged others to do so too. That's not something you can do every night though.



Didn't bother reading the other replies. This post of mine is long enough.

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You are truly insane and delusional. I am shocked that you took out your time to bitch me out in a PM for "thanking" Miss_Lollipop's post. I haven't even had much interaction with you. I don't even know who the fuck you are. Why you care so much that I "thanked" her post, is beyond me. It is clear to me that you are a bit "off."

Oh and I posted that publicly because i am curious who else got a nasty PM from him. If I was out of line, just let me know Amber.

PlayboyMegan said:

You are truly insane and delusional. I am shocked that you took out your time to bitch me out in a PM for "thanking" Miss_Lollipop's post. I haven't even had much interaction with you. I don't even know who the fuck you are. Why you care so much that I "thanked" her post, is beyond me. It is clear to me that you are a bit "off."

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:shock:

Whoever got that message, I'd report it.

Also, it would amuse me if Amber got that message, too, since she used the "thank" feature as well.

Why didn't I get a nasty pm I'm the poster! I feel left out.

(in all seriousness this is silly... @anal i was simply stating my opinon. It was not meant as a personal attack but you seem to think its ok to personally attack the people who agree with me. This makes me very angry).

BluexDakota said:

PlayboyMegan said:

You are truly insane and delusional. I am shocked that you took out your time to bitch me out in a PM for "thanking" Miss_Lollipop's post. I haven't even had much interaction with you. I don't even know who the fuck you are. Why you care so much that I "thanked" her post, is beyond me. It is clear to me that you are a bit "off."

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:shock:

Whoever got that message, I'd report it.

Also, it would amuse me if Amber got that message, too, since she used the "thank" feature as well.

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hahaha that'd be pretty funny!!