Ugly truth about MFC???

Anyone else think this video is a load of crap spewed by some paranoid member who likes to think he knows what he's talking about?

This assumes that there isn't a cap or that camscore isn't adjusted based on current volume.

This is the assumption.
Say if a model makes 1000 tokens, camscore goes up by 1.
Now if two models make 2000 each, camscore goes up by 2.
Then is one model makes 2000 and one makes 1000, camscore goes up by 2 and 1 respectively.

However, if we adjust based on volume,
1 models makes 1000 tokens, camscore goes up by 1.
2 models make 1000 tokens, camscore goes up by 1.
2 models make 2000 tokens, due to increased volume of tokens (and an increased earning expectation), camscore increases by 1.
3 models make 2000 tokens and 1 model makes 1000 tokens. The first three increase by 1 while the fourth may stay the same or decrease.

Another example:
there are 1000 models.
The maximum camscore in a one model site would be 1,000,000
With 1,000 models, the cap with an even distribution would be 1000 (starting value)
To keep this camscore the model must meet a quota of .1% of the tokens earned on the site.
If 1,000,000 tokens are made on the site, each model must earn 1,000 tokens.
If a model makes 2,000 tokens (and earning double her share) she will gain 1,000 camscore.
If a model makes 900 tokens she will lose 100 camscore.
Now if 2,000,000 tokens are made (keeping 1,000 models) 2,000 tokens will result in a 0 camscore gain.

Either or both of these systems may be in place and they may be used with a sampling of certain models. Models may be sorted into classes (i.e. top 10%, etc.) and samplings used from those to judge camscore based on them. Or a single sample (middle 20%) may be used to create a single baseline.
Of course more than just tokens are involved creating a deeper, more complex system that is harder to judge. However either of these systems would explain more and more tokens being needed for models to make it to the top.

How can MFC adjust a camscore equation when they don't even know what the camscore equation is themselves? I stopped listening half way through for a lot of reasons and I'm going to call bullshit and agree with Alex.

Question- Are girls still that balls serious about their camscore? I mean I understand higher the camscore higher up you are on the page and if this is your main source of income you don't want to be at the bottom of the page. BUT if you are actually entertaining and show some form of personality you are going to get regulars, and with word of mouth they'll tell two people, and they'll tell two people, and so on and so on, who are going to tip you to show their appreciation anyway. So where in lies the importance of a camscore if it doesnt effect anything but where you are on the page?

I tried reading keiths post, numbers are tough and need to go drink one of my favorite alcoholic drinks.

SweepTheLeg said:

How can MFC adjust a camscore equation when they don't even know what the camscore equation is themselves? I stopped listening half way through for a lot of reasons and I'm going to call bullshit and agree with Alex.

Question- Are girls still that balls serious about their camscore? I mean I understand higher the camscore higher up you are on the page and if this is your main source of income you don't want to be at the bottom of the page. BUT if you are actually entertaining and show some form of personality you are going to get regulars, and with word of mouth they'll tell two people, and they'll tell two people, and so on and so on, who are going to tip you to show their appreciation anyway. So where in lies the importance of a camscore if it doesnt effect anything but where you are on the page?

I tried reading keiths post, numbers are tough and need to go drink one of my favorite alcoholic drinks.

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I tried to stick to easy numbers and simple math, but yeah. tl;dr version: the video is bullshit, here is the math.

I assumed as much so I applaud you and your mathematical skills.

I wonder how many comments would be posted about how stupid this video is if they didn't have to be approved.

Yep. Also; MFC is the only site with software. Personally I hate having to log in via a browser.

I hope you put out a notice on the newsfeed the next time you do a sugary sweet coating show.

I just want it to be known that if anyone is wondering why im sitting here with my cock out is because Amber told me to.

SweepTheLeg said:

I just want it to be known that if anyone is wondering why im sitting here with my cock out is because Amber told me to.

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no

I don't bother even watching those videos anymore, after the first few they got really stupid.

AmberCutie said:

AlexLady said:

I wonder how many comments would be posted about how stupid this video is if they didn't have to be approved.

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It's a pretty clear sign that they knew they'd get unfavorable comments. Which means they know they are spewing bullshit. Stop trying to turn MFC into a fucking political agenda. It's a cam site. It exists to make its owners money. It's doing its job. Members: Sit down, whip your cock out, and either pay for a show, or watch someone else's paid public show and shut your god damned mouths. Models: work your ass off, stop whining about what the other girls are doing and how they're getting what THEY ARE getting, and improve your show. If you got it, you'll flourish, if you don't, you won't. Make due with whatcha got.

I'm pretty sure that's the most blatant I've ever stated my opinions. Apparently bullshit videos set aside the sugary sweet coating I usually put on everything.

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I can't help but fall in love with a woman that speaks like this. One day I'll catch you on cam Amber

SweepTheLeg said:

I just want it to be known that if anyone is wondering why im sitting here with my cock out is because Amber told me to.

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Are about to put a sugary sweet coating on everything?

AmberCutie said:

It's a pretty clear sign that they knew they'd get unfavorable comments. Which means they know they are spewing bullshit. Stop trying to turn MFC into a fucking political agenda. It's a cam site. It exists to make its owners money. It's doing its job. Members: Sit down, whip your cock out, and either pay for a show, or watch someone else's paid public show and shut your god damned mouths. Models: work your ass off, stop whining about what the other girls are doing and how they're getting what THEY ARE getting, and improve your show. If you got it, you'll flourish, if you don't, you won't. Make due with whatcha got.

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pre-****ing-cisely
now, if only more people would pay to attention to the above

AmberCutie said:

AlexLady said:

I wonder how many comments would be posted about how stupid this video is if they didn't have to be approved.

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It's a pretty clear sign that they knew they'd get unfavorable comments. Which means they know they are spewing bullshit. Stop trying to turn MFC into a fucking political agenda. It's a cam site. It exists to make its owners money. It's doing its job. Members: Sit down, whip your cock out, and either pay for a show, or watch someone else's paid public show and shut your god damned mouths. Models: work your ass off, stop whining about what the other girls are doing and how they're getting what THEY ARE getting, and improve your show. If you got it, you'll flourish, if you don't, you won't. Make due with whatcha got.

I'm pretty sure that's the most blatant I've ever stated my opinions. Apparently bullshit videos set aside the sugary sweet coating I usually put on everything.

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Amen to this. When I first signed up for MFC I used to worry constantly about what others were doing, then one day about a month and half ago I just decided to do my own thing and focus on my own work. Wouldn't you know it, since then I have gotten my score up, gotten regulars and had heaps of fun.

Holy thread necromancy...

So I must have either been MIA or I ignored this when it was posted. Since it has been necro'd anyhow at this point, I want to point out I find it really funny that their argument centers around the idea of money made being some sort of linear relationship with cam score and yet at the very start of the video they had claimed many factors affecting cam score such as TIME ONLINE. The only question is whether their intent was to imply an inverse relationship or not between time online and cam score. I personally have always heard time explained as tokens per time period which does INDEED imply an inverse relationship between time and cam score. That in and of itself completely blows the model for their conspiracy theory out of the water.

tl;dr Mentioned time as a factor which kills the model upon which their rant is made. GEE FUCKING GEE.

MFC is less like a meat market than any other cam site I know of. That's the whole reason I'm here and not elsewhere. Other sites make me feel like I'm sitting in a window waiting for some random bloke to pick me, and then I'm automatically taken to private with this rude fucktard and it sucks.

AmberCutie said:

Members: Sit down, whip your cock out, and either pay for a show, or watch someone else's paid public show and shut your god damned mouths. Models: work your ass off, stop whining about what the other girls are doing and how they're getting what THEY ARE getting, and improve your show. If you got it, you'll flourish, if you don't, you won't. Make due with whatcha got.

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Amber, this is one of the most brilliant things I've read in your posts (so far) and you say a lot of brilliant things.

Bawsky, that magic card cracked me up. My boyfriend is obsessed with Magic, so I've been playing a lot lately.

the only thing i got out of this was that i'm at the bottom of the stinky clearance bin, not even the nice clearance rack, and that more members should be coming to me....hmmm...should i start scheming to get into the hysteria then? eh, i'll pass.

Who ever worries about their camscore is fucking retarded. Do your thing and the money will come. Worrying about being Miss MFC is useless when most of the girls on the top 20 are on MFC more than a fat nerd who plays WoW. So trying to compete with some of the garbage on top 20 is pointless.

ScarlettLeigh said:

Amen to this. When I first signed up for MFC I used to worry constantly about what others were doing, then one day about a month and half ago I just decided to do my own thing and focus on my own work. Wouldn't you know it, since then I have gotten my score up, gotten regulars and had heaps of fun.

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That's why a lot of girls suck and fail at MFC. They're more worried about what other girls are doing to decide what they should do when they should worry about themselves. What you do depends on the kind of people who are joining your room, your personality and looks.

blackxrose said:

the only thing i got out of this was that i'm at the bottom of the stinky clearance bin, not even the nice clearance rack, and that more members should be coming to me....hmmm...should i start scheming to get into the hysteria then? eh, i'll pass.

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I'll join your room bb since you're my biggest fan.




Saw this similar vid concerning MFC http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J---aiyznGQ

:lol:

Old thread, but I'll add 2 cents.

1) Comments were probably disabled due to all the shite every video gets about justin bieber...
2) Camscore matters because you may get regulars, but everyone moves on. Camscore helps get fresh ones simple due to traffic.
3) Miss MFC has fuck all to do with camscore...

Why is Sarah Palin advocating for cam models? I would have thought she would be calling us all dirty whores and saying we will bring the wrath of god down upon ourselves by doing this and that she can see the Russians massing for an invasion against her for her outcries against such a nasty, lewd business.

EllaXoXo said:

Why is Sarah Palin advocating for cam models? I would have thought she would be calling us all dirty whores and saying we will bring the wrath of god down upon ourselves by doing this and that she can see the Russians massing for an invasion against her for her outcries against such a nasty, lewd business.

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i wondered that too.....and why larry king was having her guest and not talk about her political situation...hmmm. the wonders of the internet.

I know this is a late response but I just wanted to say I've cammed at 3 cam sites and mfc is by far my favorite for the fact that I am not sore when I get offline.

Places like imlive you have to be in private fucking yourself silly to make anything. You get paid a less percentage and when I'm deciding which to log into first they are always last because I know that I'll be walking funny when I get off. ( pun intended).