The ACF Score

RedHerby1 · Feb 23, 2012

From the "MFC Assistant v.1" thread, here is the ACF Score !

First thanks to Kradek for implementing my idea !

More tokens @ MFC is good, so more postings @ ACF is also good !!! Your base ACF Score is your average postings a day * 1000. Then 2 corrections are applied:

Correction 1 - What is the quality of your postings !
- If you get more thanks then you do posting, your score goes up.
- if you get less thanks than you do postings, your score goes down.

Correction 2 - Are you social ?
- If you give more thanks then you receive thanks, your score goes up.
- If you give less thanks then you receive thanks, your score goes down.

Here are some of the current results

Code:

              score    base  quality   social 
              -----    ----  -------   ------
JoleleJolene   8206    4708     1.88     0.93
SophiaLocke    4916    1345     1.37     2.65
blackxrose     5553    7881     0.51     1.38
sxycherrypie   4382    8750     0.24     2.08
Jupiter551     3962   11688     0.52     0.65
AedanRayne     3167    1791     1.58     1.12
AmberCutie     3057    9079     1.12     0.30
LadyLuna       2660    3936     0.74     0.92
PokerBabe      2613    1784     0.98     1.50
Nording        2587    2781     0.56     1.66
ohmystarz      2290    1678     1.12     1.22
LilyMarie      1979    3384     0.69     0.85
schlmoe        1766    2283     0.82     0.94
Jessi          1741    3822     0.92     0.50
LacieLaPlante  1497    1810     1.50     0.55
Bocefish       1236    5044     0.53     0.47
Miss_Loliepop  1123    2145     1.44     0.36
Frankie        1066    3623     0.70     0.42
AlexLady        768    5978     0.47     0.27
Kradek          393    1032     1.00     0.38
SoTxBob         392    1069     0.78     2.85
RedHerby        386     961     0.60     0.67
bawksy           27    2019     0.97     0.01

@Kradek, can you generate a list like above? So that everybody is included, I have now picked The Usual Suspects and sorted it manually.

Code:

var acfScore = (avgPostsPerDay * 1000) * (avgThanksPerDay / avgPostsPerDay) * (thanksSent / thanksReceived);
details.innerHTML = details.innerHTML + "<dd><strong>ACF Score: </strong>" + 
		Math.round(acfScore) + "   " +
		Math.round(avgPostsPerDay * 1000)  +  "   " +
		roundNumber(avgThanksPerDay / avgPostsPerDay, 2) +  "   " +
		roundNumber(thanksSent / thanksReceived, 2) + 
		"</dd>;"

Rose · Feb 23, 2012

This is pretty neat. So if I'm understanding correctly, this list basically shows who has the most posts and what they are:advice or social chatter. Cool :thumbleft:

JoleneBrody · Feb 23, 2012

I'm miss ACF!!!! wooooooo!!! :lol: :dance:
I would like to thank all the midgets...er I mean "little people" Except Jup... My nemesis.
I don't feel so bad for not leaving my house now!

schlmoe · Feb 23, 2012

All that I can say is I bet bawksy will be crushed that he did not achieve a 0.00 on the social variable.

schlmoe · Feb 23, 2012

schlmoe said:
All that I can say is I bet bawksy will be crushed that he did not achieve a 0.00 on the social variable.

I'm only replying to my own post in hopes of increasing my base. Take that, you bean counters!

Rose · Feb 23, 2012

schlmoe said:
schlmoe said:

All that I can say is I bet bawksy will be crushed that he did not achieve a 0.00 on the social variable.

Click to expand...

I'm only replying to my own post in hopes of increasing my base. Take that, you bean counters!

Aha! You've found a way to thwart the system! Now you shall be paraded around as a witch! :naughty:

RedHerby1 · Feb 23, 2012

blackxrose said:
This is pretty neat. So if I'm understanding correctly, this list basically shows who has the most posts and what they are:advice or social chatter. Cool :thumbleft:

yeah something like that, or more how your postings are valued by the other ACF members, ofc its main purpose is just fun, making fun of a automatic generated score like the one that is so important ...

btw, the numbers are calculated, the sort was done manually by me, and I see now that I can't sort, you should be second

JoleneBrody · Feb 23, 2012

schlmoe said:
schlmoe said:

All that I can say is I bet bawksy will be crushed that he did not achieve a 0.00 on the social variable.

Click to expand...

I'm only replying to my own post in hopes of increasing my base. Take that, you bean counters!

Team Schmoe! Let's get him in the top 10 everybody, cmon! :thankwall Please only "thank" during the Thank wall! :happy-cheerleaderkid:

Kradek · Feb 23, 2012

RedHerby said:
@Kradek, can you generate a list like above? So that everybody is included, I have now picked The Usual Suspects and sorted it manually.

Oops, didn't see this thread until just now. I'll try and find sometime this weekend to take a look.

BoltEyeAm · Feb 23, 2012

Plan for infinite score.

1) Sign up
2) Thank one person
3) Make one bad post, and insure no one thanks you for it.

(1/1 *1000)*(1/1)*(1/0)
1000 * 1 * infinity = ACF champion

Edit: I guess in the second part the numerator is be aveThanksReceived per day which would be 0. I was thinking it was avgThanksSent

Divide by Zero anyways...

BoltEyeAm · Feb 23, 2012

Well I guess I'm going to be the lame math nerd.

This is your simplified equation.
thanksSent / daysMember * 1000 = score

aka: avgThanksSent * 1000

---------------------------------
Original Equation: (avgPostsPerDay * 1000) * (avgThanksPerDay / avgPostsPerDay) * (thanksSent / thanksReceived)

Code:

Write out Equation as follows then cancel terms

totalPost         1000       thanksReceived     daysMember       thanksSent
----------    *  -------  * --------------- * ------------- * --------------
daysMember         1          daysMember        totalPost      thanksReceived

Leaving

1000       thanksSent
------ * --------------
   1        daysMember

Kradek · Feb 24, 2012

BoltEyeAm said:
Well I guess I'm going to be the lame math nerd...

Lol! Nice! I hadn't looked to closely at the formula.

SophiaLocke · Feb 24, 2012

i knew there had to be something good about obsessively thanking the shit out of posts on here

RedHerby1 · Feb 24, 2012

Kradek said:
BoltEyeAm said:

Well I guess I'm going to be the lame math nerd...

Click to expand...

Lol! Nice! I hadn't looked to closely at the formula.

OMG, those Sheldon's, Don't you love to hate them

OK, then it's time for ACF Score 2.0

The new formula is now:

(avgThanksPerDay * 1000) * (avgThanksPerDay / avgPostsPerDay) * (thanksSent / thanksReceived);

And the new functional text is:

Like the MFC score is based on 'Tokens' you receive, the ACF score is based on 'Thanks' you receive. Your base ACF Score is the average 'Thanks' a day you receive * 1000. Then 2 corrections are applied:

Correction 1 - What is the quality of your postings ?
- If you get more thanks then you do posting, your score goes up.
- if you get less thanks than you do postings, your score goes down.

Correction 2 - Are you social ?
- If you give more thanks then you receive thanks, your score goes up.
- If you give less thanks then you receive thanks, your score goes down.

Right now I'm not in a position to check it out (at work on iPad), The formula can still be simplified, but not so dramatic as before. If JoleneJolene is still on the first position and Bawsky will still be last, then all is ok

Jupiter551 · Feb 24, 2012

I don't see any provision made to discount rampant back-room thanks-trading that undoubtedly goes on

LiLredhairedgrl · Feb 24, 2012

:geek: Just tell me my score damnit! gaaaa!

Rose · Feb 24, 2012

What about updates scores?

RedHerby1 · Feb 24, 2012

BoltEyeAm said:
Well I guess I'm going to be the lame math nerd.

The translation from:

(avgPostsPerDay * 1000) * (avgThanksPerDay / avgPostsPerDay) * (thanksSent / thanksReceived)

to

Code:

totalPost         1000       thanksReceived     daysMember       thanksSent
----------    *  -------  * --------------- * ------------- * --------------
daysMember         1          daysMember        totalPost      thanksReceived

is not correct, in the 4th part daysMember & totalPost are swapped, also the third multiply must be a divide (not sure if it is now still OK to leave the parentheses out), it must be:

Code:

totalPost         1000       thanksReceived     totalPost        thanksSent
----------    *  -------  * --------------- / ------------- * --------------
daysMember         1          daysMember        daysMember     thanksReceived

and now that dramatic simplification is not possible anymore.

I'm still going to see how below base from ACF Score 2.0 will work.

Like the MFC CamScore is based on 'Tokens' you receive, the ACF Score is based on 'Thanks' you receive. Your base ACF Score is the average 'Thanks' a day you receive * 1000.

I think thats better then the below original base from ACF Score 1.0

More tokens @ MFC is good, so more postings @ ACF is also good !!! Your base ACF Score is your average postings a day * 1000.

because like the MFC CamScore it must be about how much you get, not about how much you do.

RedHerby1 · Feb 24, 2012

LiLredhairedgrl said:
:geek: Just tell me my score damnit! gaaaa!

No idea yet, no greasemonkey here, but your social variable is amazing high, your score will be good !

Thanks Sent: 1375
Thanks Received: 437

BoltEyeAm · Feb 24, 2012

RedHerby said:
BoltEyeAm said:

Well I guess I'm going to be the lame math nerd.

Click to expand...

The translation from:

(avgPostsPerDay * 1000) * (avgThanksPerDay / avgPostsPerDay) * (thanksSent / thanksReceived)

to

Code:

totalPost 1000 thanksReceived daysMember thanksSent ---------- * ------- * --------------- * ------------- * -------------- daysMember 1 daysMember totalPost thanksReceived

is not correct, in the 4th part daysMember & totalPost are swapped, also the third multiply must be a divide (not sure if it is now still OK to leave the parentheses out), it must be:

Code:

totalPost 1000 thanksReceived totalPost thanksSent ---------- * ------- * --------------- / ------------- * -------------- daysMember 1 daysMember daysMember thanksReceived

and now that dramatic simplification is not possible anymore.

I'm still going to see how below base from ACF Score 2.0 will work.

Like the MFC CamScore is based on 'Tokens' you receive, the ACF Score is based on 'Thanks' you receive. Your base ACF Score is the average 'Thanks' a day you receive * 1000.

Click to expand...

I think thats better then the below original base from ACF Score 1.0

More tokens @ MFC is good, so more postings @ ACF is also good !!! Your base ACF Score is your average postings a day * 1000.

Click to expand...

because like the MFC CamScore it must be about how much you get, not about how much you do.

All the operations are multiplication or division so it can be written in any order without parenthesis once you have broken it down to your base units.
(avgThanksPerDay / avgPostsPerDay) = (thanksReceived / daysMember) / (totalPost / DaysMember)
Dividing by a fraction is the same as multiplying by the reciprocal. http://www.mathsisfun.com/fractions_division.html

I the reason I was simplifying the equation is because it struck me as odd that thanksReceived was in the denominator of the last part and I was currious to see how much weight the value actually carried or if it hurt you over helped you overall.

I have to run to work but your version two simplified is.
(thanksReceived * thanksSent * 1000)/(totalPost * daysMember)
I don't have time to check my math right now got to head to work.

schlmoe · Feb 24, 2012

Damn you BOB! I don't know if he's mocking me or trying to steal my thunder:

That's fine, I will not be denied! Once my scripting consultant is done, I will be victorious. Every time I log on, a new script will run and auto-thank all unread posts. In the name of accuracy, all you ingrates out there will only get a "thanks" of the "meh" variety. Take that!

On another note, I believe that "VIP" thanks should be worth more. No particular reason, other than "I say so". My calculations will take that variable into effect. I'm going to win. I cannot be stopped in this quest!

Kradek · Feb 24, 2012

When you guys finalize your ~~plan to takeover the world~~ ACF score forumla, I'll modify the script.

RedHerby1 · Feb 24, 2012

RedHerby said:
is not correct, in the 4th part daysMember & totalPost are swapped, also the third multiply must be a divide

BoltEyeAm said:
Dividing by a fraction is the same as multiplying by the reciprocal.

aha, my 2 points, multiply vs divide and the variable swap, do neutreulize each other ?

So, I had my math wrong, lets be quiet about that, otherwize Amber will clean this thread and lock it

RedHerby1 · Feb 24, 2012

Kradek said:
When you guys finalize your ~~plan to takeover the world~~ ACF score forumla, I'll modify the script.

hehe, not so important, its just a formula to make JoleneJolene first and Bawsky last, currently I go for.

(avgThanksPerDay * 1000) * (avgThanksPerDay / avgPostsPerDay) * (thanksSent / thanksReceived)

Thats an one-on-one translation of the functional idea behind the ACF Score.

I you could setup a structure to generate a list and sort it, whatever formula is used, then I will Thank that posting of you !

RedHerby1 · Feb 24, 2012

A Math Story, By RedHerby

So, I defined below definition for the ACF Score:

Your base ACF score is your average postings a day * 1000, then 2 corrections are applied:

Correction 1 - What is the quality of your postings ?
- If you get more thanks then you do posting, your score goes up.
- if you get less thanks than you do postings, your score goes down.

Correction 2 - Are you social ?
- If you give more thanks then you receive thanks, your score goes up.
- If you give less thanks then you receive thanks, your score goes down.

And translated that in below technical formula:

(avgPostsPerDay * 1000) * (avgThanksPerDay / avgPostsPerDay) * (thanksSent / thanksReceived).

Kradek did write some code for it, and the result was:

Code:

               score    base  quality   social 
               -----    ----  -------   ------
JoleleJolene    8206    4708     1.88     0.93
blackxrose      5553    7881     0.51     1.38
LiLredhairedgrl 5531    1776     0.99     3.15
SophiaLocke     4916    1345     1.37     2.65
sxycherrypie    4382    8750     0.24     2.08
Jupiter551      3962   11688     0.52     0.65
AedanRayne      3167    1791     1.58     1.12
AmberCutie      3057    9079     1.12     0.30
LadyLuna        2660    3936     0.74     0.92
PokerBabe       2613    1784     0.98     1.50
Nording         2587    2781     0.56     1.66
SoTxBob         2392    1069     0.78     2.85
ohmystarz       2290    1678     1.12     1.22
LilyMarie       1979    3384     0.69     0.85
schlmoe         1766    2283     0.82     0.94
Jessi           1741    3822     0.92     0.50
LacieLaPlante   1497    1810     1.50     0.55
Bocefish        1236    5044     0.53     0.47
Miss_Loliepop   1123    2145     1.44     0.36
Frankie         1066    3623     0.70     0.42
AlexLady         768    5978     0.47     0.27
Kradek           393    1032     1.00     0.38
RedHerby         386     961     0.60     0.67
bawksy            27    2019     0.97     0.01

How cool was that ? The meaning of "quality" and "social" is that fun or is that fun ?

And then BoltEyeAm did came and said "Hee, you're definition of the ACF score is the same as:

Your ACF score is your average Received Thanks a day * 1000

I could not believe that and hacked a bit in the script from Kradek to test it:

Code:

            var daysMember      = dateDiffInDays(today, joinDate);
            var avgPostsPerDay  = numPosts / daysMember;

            var daysThanks      = dateDiffInDays(today, joinDate > thanksStart ? joinDate : thanksStart);		
            var avgThanksPerDay = thanksReceived / daysThanks;

            var base            = avgPostsPerDay * 1000;
            var quality         = avgThanksPerDay / avgPostsPerDay;
            var social          = thanksSent / thanksReceived;

            var ScoreLong       = base * quality * social;

            var ScoreShort      = 1000 * thanksSent / daysThanks;

And the result for JoleneJolene was:

Code:

daysMember:       478
avgPostsPerDay:     4.71
daysThanks:       250
avgThanksPerDay:   10.65
base:            4714.95
quality:            2.26
social:             0.92
ScoreLong:       9846
ScoreShort:      9846

And WTF !!! ScoreLong and ScoreShort are indeed the same !!!,

So back to the beginning, the below definition:

Your ACF score is your average received thanks a day * 1000

is the same math as:

Your base ACF score is your average postings a day * 1000, then 2 corrections are applied:

Correction 1 - What is the quality of your postings ?
- If you get more thanks then you do posting, your score goes up.
- if you get less thanks than you do postings, your score goes down.

Correction 2 - Are you social ?
- If you give more thanks then you receive thanks, your score goes up.
- If you give less thanks then you receive thanks, your score goes down.

JoleneBrody · Feb 24, 2012

Camscore AND ACF score! We'll never sleep AGAIN!

Rose · Feb 24, 2012

JoleneJolene said:
Camscore AND ACF score! We'll never sleep AGAIN!

Conspiracy! ZOMG!!!!

Shaun__ · Feb 24, 2012

JoleneJolene said:
Camscore AND ACF score! We'll never sleep AGAIN!

How do you think I feel? Before scoring I was just a run of the mill ACF member, and now I am like a page six or seven member :crybaby: I will never climb out of this hole I let myself fall into.

JoleneBrody · Feb 24, 2012

Shaun__ said:
JoleneJolene said:

Camscore AND ACF score! We'll never sleep AGAIN!

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How do you think I feel? Before scoring I was just a run of the mill ACF member, and now I am like a page six or seven member :crybaby: I will never climb out of this hole I let myself fall into.

Don't worry little buddy, I did it and so can you! It's all about consistency! just keep thanking and it will all come around!

Jupiter551 · Feb 24, 2012

JoleneJolene said:
Shaun__ said:

JoleneJolene said:

Camscore AND ACF score! We'll never sleep AGAIN!

Click to expand...

How do you think I feel? Before scoring I was just a run of the mill ACF member, and now I am like a page six or seven member :crybaby: I will never climb out of this hole I let myself fall into.

Click to expand...

Don't worry little buddy, I did it and so can you! It's all about consistency! just keep thanking and it will all come around!

Not really because if everyone ahead of him keeps thanking they'll always stay ahead

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